Bit windy in Leeds then

[mattdaniels]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-1489874...

[MonkeyBusiness]

I live on the end of the runway and didn't think it was that bad.
Saying that, it was a bit hairy coming home on the motorbike.

[The Black Flash]

Well held Mr. Pilot!

[MonkeyBusiness]

Are there any pilots on here that regularly fly into Leeds?

There is a plane (turbo prop thing from Southampton I believe, and comes in sidewards almost every day.

I know its the highest airport in the UK. Do you dread (probably the wrong word) coming into Leeds?

[Mojocvh]

""screaming" and "crying" "

Pfft fags.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42fchrzhHY

[Sifly]

MonkeyBusiness said:

Are there any pilots on here that regularly fly into Leeds?

There is a plane (turbo prop thing from Southampton I believe, and comes in sidewards almost every day.

I know its the highest airport in the UK. Do you dread (probably the wrong word) coming into Leeds?

I've only landed into Leeds a few times, we took a 767 in there last week. It certainly focuses the mind on a crappy day. Not only is the weather generally poor, the runways bloody short and has more gradient change than most roller-costers!! Good job the 767 has a good set of brakes!!

What a daft place to build a commercial airport in the first place?!!

[Zad]

I'm afraid too many people learn how to react in these circumstances from watching films. Then their second thought is how much compensation they think they might be able to get. Then the third thought it that they might be able to get on telleh.

This is a much more interesting landing at LBIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAljM7CaY10

That pilot must have been a ballerina in a previous life.

[Moose.]

Sifly said:

What a daft place to build a commercial airport in the first place?!!

Bristol's airport is in a pretty stupid place too. Fog anyone?

[mrloudly]

Zad said:

I'm afraid too many people learn how to react in these circumstances from watching films. Then their second thought is how much compensation they think they might be able to get. Then the third thought it that they might be able to get on telleh.

This is a much more interesting landing at LBIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAljM7CaY10

That pilot must have been a ballerina in a previous life.

Top job! According to the comments he was "Side Slipping" clueless....

[jamiebae]

MonkeyBusiness said:

Are there any pilots on here that regularly fly into Leeds?

There is a plane (turbo prop thing from Southampton I believe, and comes in sidewards almost every day.

I know its the highest airport in the UK. Do you dread (probably the wrong word) coming into Leeds?

FlyBe Dash-8? Nasty rattly things, and not much fun when flying from BHX to Inverness in less than perfect conditions!

[911newbie]

Zad said:

I'm afraid too many people learn how to react in these circumstances from watching films. Then their second thought is how much compensation they think they might be able to get. Then the third thought it that they might be able to get on telleh.

This is a much more interesting landing at LBIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAljM7CaY10

That pilot must have been a ballerina in a previous life.

That was simply beatifull... all fidgety and swooshy till a few seconds out form touchdown and calmly turns it round and puts it down. Wow.

[MitchT]

Flown into Leeds a few times (I live 20 minutes away) though I'm just a humble PAX. 757 just about manages to stop in the length of the runway

[Sifly]

mrloudly said:

Top job! According to the comments he was "Side Slipping" clueless....

That was a pretty 'text book' cross wind landing with the pilot kicking off the drift with rudder in the flair to align the aircraft with the runway for touchdown. As for the approach, well having flown the EMB145 myself, its not the most 'stable' aircraft in the world, even on a good day!!

Side Slipping is an completely different technique, and not one recommended for use in a commercial aircraft! It involves 'crossing the controls' which basically means applying right rudder and left wing down aileron (or the other way about) which creates a huge amount of drag and crabs the aircraft into a side slip. This is sometimes used in light aircraft when a rapid rate of descent is equired in such events as an emergency landing.

Here's a great clip of a glider pilot using side slip (crossed controls) to increase his rate of descent in order to make his touch down point. Watch the piece of string stuck to the canopy which indicates the ammount of slip, although in this case, looking out of the window tells all!!

http://youtu.be/SP1nhR7vQyg

Edited by Sifly on Thursday 15th September 09:29

Edited by Sifly on Thursday 15th September 09:43

[mattdaniels]

Sifly said:

mrloudly said:

Top job! According to the comments he was "Side Slipping" clueless....

That was a pretty 'text book' cross wind landing with the pilot kicking off the drift with rudder in the flair to align the aircraft with the runway for touchdown. As for the approach, well having flown the EMB145 myself, its not the most 'stable' aircraft in the world, even on a good day!!

Side Slipping is an completely different technique, and not one recommended for use in a commercial aircraft! It involves 'crossing the controls' which basically means applying right rudder and left wing down aileron (or the other way about) which creates a huge amount of drag and crabs the aircraft into a side slip. This is sometimes used in light aircraft when a rapid rate of descent is equired in such events as an emergency landing.

Here's a great clip of a glider pilot using side slip (crossed controls) to increase his rate of descent in order to make his touch down point. Watch the piece of string stuck to the canopy which indicates the ammount of slip, although in this case, looking out of the window tells all!!

http://youtu.be/SP1nhR7vQyg

Edited by Sifly on Thursday 15th September 09:29

Edited by Sifly on Thursday 15th September 09:43

That is properly impressive!

[simonej]

I was told Leeds was built as a bad weather training field for the RAF? Any truth to that rumour?

Whenever I've been there the wind has always been straight across the runway and I seem to remember some nasty turbulence on approach to the southerly runway.

[Zad]

Sifly said:

http://youtu.be/SP1nhR7vQyg

How on earth do you try that for the first time without risking plummeting to your death? Spectacular stuff, but I prefer my landings to be as unspectacular as possible.

Yeadon started life as a civilian airport in the early 1930s I think, and obviously moved to military work for WWII and the local aircraft factories. I imagine that the RAF had access to quite a few worse locations than that, if they wanted to experience bad weather. It is a long way from the motorway and rail links, but I'm not sure where you else you could locate it now and still be close enough to the main conurbation.

[MonkeyBusiness]

Zad said:

It is a long way from the motorway and rail links, but I'm not sure where you else you could locate it now and still be close enough to the main conurbation.

There is a 'master plan' to extend the airport, provide rail links, and a few other odds and sods.
Coming in from the Harrogate/Otley side you can see a huge dip in the runway.

[crofty1984]

It was originally going to be called Leeds and Bradford international airport, but the acronym wouldn't have proved popular.

[Urban Sports]

My Brother In Law was until very recently a first officer for Ryanair based at Leeds.

His facebook status used to regularly say "yay it's windy, another day of landing sideways."

Always used to make me chuckle

[davepoth]

Zad said:

How on earth do you try that for the first time without risking plummeting to your death? Spectacular stuff, but I prefer my landings to be as unspectacular as possible.

I'm guessing you try it a very long way up the first few times.