Black Knight, ancient satellite ?

Black Knight, ancient satellite ?

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Eric Mc

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Brigand said:
jmorgan said:
Slipping by planets can increase speed depending on how you approach it. It has been used by satellites around the system to gain speed.
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/basics/grav/primer.php
True, you can 'slingshot' your way faster using an orbit, but if a body was to 'graze' a gravitational field, it could well sap a little speed from it, and perhaps alter it's course slightly depending on how strong the field was where it entered.
Not really. Passing a planetary body tends to accelerate the space craft as it gets closer and closer to the body. It will only slow down if it skims through the upper atmosphere - without burning up.
NASA has used this technique (called "aerobraking") a couple of times with some of its Mars probes. The "skimming" has to be exactly precise for the probe to lose just the right amount of speed to allow it to be captured by the planet. If it loses too much speed it will enter the atmophere too steeply and burn up. If it doesn't slow down enough it will be deflected onto a new path by the planet but it will not enter orbit.

jmorgan

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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So we have a method on how it got there. It was part of the craft that put it in orbit from the earth.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Is debris cataloged ?


jmorgan

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Westy Pre-Lit

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So it should be cataloged then and be able to be identified ?

chunkol

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Just don't kill ALL of the whales, just to be safe... biggrin

Melvin Udall

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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chunkol said:
Just don't kill ALL of the whales, just to be safe... biggrin
hehe

IforB

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230 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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It's a hoax. A load of old rollocks.

Supposedly any old ham radio operator can detect it? Yeah right.

jmorgan

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
So it should be cataloged then and be able to be identified ?
If you zoom in you can see the number.....

They track a lot of it, go ask them.

Westy Pre-Lit

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The NASA pictures I linked to earlier say it's SPACE DEBRIS...they don't say what from exactly.

jmorgan

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Space?

Westy Pre-Lit

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Identification

Mission: STS088 Roll: 724 Frame: 66 Mission ID on the Film or image: STS88
Country or Geographic Name: OCEAN
Features: PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS
Center Point Latitude: Center Point Longitude: (Negative numbers indicate south for latitude and west for longitude)
Stereo: No (Yes indicates there is an adjacent picture of the same area)
ONC Map ID: L-05 JNC Map ID: 51


Am I reading that wrong ? Not sure what half of that stuff means tbh.

jmorgan

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Lobbed up by a rocket. Fell off, what you looking for? An excuse to say "HA HA! Had to be alien cos NASA do not know whence it came"

Who really cars, its a bit of junk. Any tenuous link to an alien vessel is stretching it further than an elephants jockstrap.

Eric Mc

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
So it should be cataloged then and be able to be identified ?
Most space debris is catalogued and monitored. Debris that is roughly in the same orbit as the Intrenational Space Station needs to be watched carefully in case there is the possibility of a collision. Every so often, the ISS is lifted or lowered in its orbit to avoid such conflicts. Not that lohg ago, the satellite that's coming down soon, UARS, was the cause of one such alert and the ISS was moved out of its way.

Happy82

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170 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
A star chart which would have been plotted from earth 13,000 years ago, and focused on the Epsilon Bostes star system.
I reckon that dinosaurs evolved more than we thought and it's a dinosaur travel beacon to direct their ships to a new home in the stars biggrin

It'll explain the historical climate change as a result of the dino-heads driving around in their V8s hehe


Simpo Two

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Happy82 said:
It'll explain the historical climate change as a result of the dino-heads driving around in their V8s hehe
Pah, I'd rather be extinct and happy than drive Toyota Pious!

Happy82

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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I think they were called a Tyranosaurus Pious back then

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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jmorgan said:
Lobbed up by a rocket. Fell off......

Who really cares
I Do thumbup

jmorgan said:
its a bit of junk.
From what ? Show me the money. biggrin

Eric Mc

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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There are over 11,000 pieces of "space junk" orbiting the earth - ranging from dead satellites, discarded upper rocket stages, payload shouds, space suit gloves, a tool box, a Hasselblad camera, nuts, bolts, washers, bits of wire, flakes of paint etc etc.

The US Air Force monitors nearly all of the larger items (over a couple of feet in size) using sophisticated radar and optical tracking devices. They are monitored for a number of reasons.

Space junk is dangerous to other active spacecraft, especially manned ones.

Space junk needs to be monitored so that any additional stuff being launched by potential enemy states can be recorded and tracked - mainly spy and other sorts of military satellites

As we are aware tonight, a lot of space junk eventually falls back to earth so keeping an eye on this stuff so that it can be deduced when and where it is going to fall down.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Thanks Eric, so it stands to reason that this thing must be cataloged some where then as it looks a fair lump.