New British Airways Commercial...
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hidetheelephants said:
I was disappointed there were no BCal DC10s, Highland Div 748s, Chippy Embraers, BEA Viscounts/Vanguards/Tridents etc. You could easily fill a half hour with period footage of the various bits that merged to form BA.
I think it is meant to be short 
hopefully they will make a long version or have made one.LukeSi said:
So basically getting better and better, gets to concorde, nah screw progress, lets just use wide bodies instead.
Airlines can't afford to push boundaries. The only people who can do that are governments using taxpayers' money. And if the taxpayers don't want their money spent that way, it won't happen.BA and its ancestors could only pioneer aviation when they were wholly state owned.
Fat Albert said:
Wasn't BA's choice to withdraw Concorde, Airbus only had to maintain the Type Approval whilst both airlines flew them, so when Air France withdrew it Airbus then removed the Type Approval, therefore BA was forced to stop as it could not then have a Public Category Cof A
My understanding is it was 9/11 that ultimately caused her demise, quite a few of her regulars perished in the terrorist attack 
The issue is, can airlines be at the forefront of encoraging aircraft designers to push the boundaries? I say they can't in an era where shareholders' returns on investment are king.
Other drivers, such as a stake in technology, national security or national prestige have no bearing on the profit motive. And if the profit motive is the driver, then you won't get the technical advancement - unless it can confer a distinct economic advantage over the competition. At the current stage in aviation history, the advantages to be derived from improving the technology are too minor to warrant the cost of research and development.
What happens with the Boeing 787 is going to be interesting.
Other drivers, such as a stake in technology, national security or national prestige have no bearing on the profit motive. And if the profit motive is the driver, then you won't get the technical advancement - unless it can confer a distinct economic advantage over the competition. At the current stage in aviation history, the advantages to be derived from improving the technology are too minor to warrant the cost of research and development.
What happens with the Boeing 787 is going to be interesting.
0a said:
So they are advertising the company using their best products, the peak of which you cannot purchase any more?
Well, to be fair to them, BA didn't produce Concorde. They tend to just fly what others produce 
Simpo Two said:
Wasn't 'Speedbird' the name of the BA logo?
I think it was the BOAC logo.
ninja-lewis said:
The flight numbers for Concorde to/from JFK were 001-004 so the callsign was Speedbird Concorde 1. The numbers went unused following the retirement of Concorde until the London City-JFK A318 service was allocated 001 and 002 and hence the Speedbird 1 and 2 callsigns.
They still use BAW3/BAW4, also for the A318 service.Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Sunday 25th September 15:32
Turbodiesel1690 said:
Sorry but I also have a big problem with them using Concord in this ad, boils my pish how they discarded her
I thought BAE / Airbus /Aerospatiale withdrew support and they had no choice? Agreed Concorde sadly missed... Night time take offs over Hatton Cross. Lovely !Prawo Jazdy said:
0a said:
So they are advertising the company using their best products, the peak of which you cannot purchase any more?
Well, to be fair to them, BA didn't produce Concorde. They tend to just fly what others produce Simpo Two said:
Wasn't 'Speedbird' the name of the BA logo?
I think it was the BOAC logo.ninja-lewis said:
The flight numbers for Concorde to/from JFK were 001-004 so the callsign was Speedbird Concorde 1. The numbers went unused following the retirement of Concorde until the London City-JFK A318 service was allocated 001 and 002 and hence the Speedbird 1 and 2 callsigns.
They still use BAW3/BAW4, also for the A318 service.Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Sunday 25th September 15:32
Prawo Jazdy said:
What I meant was that I didn't think the Speedbird logo had actually been used by BA. I'd never noticed it on the old livery, but i've seen now that i've just been unobservant.
Was that a recent pic? I know they repainted one at the back end of last year to commemorate the end of the 757 service.Ayahuasca said:
Great to have a progression of aircraft types, shame the reel starts to run backwards after Concorde though.
It doesn't really though does it, Concorde was aimed at a different target than other airliners, speed, that was found not to be economically viable so we now have composites, extremely powerful and efficient turbofans etc and the game has moved on with the 380 so the technology has moved onApache said:
It doesn't really though does it, Concorde was aimed at a different target than other airliners, speed, that was found not to be economically viable so we now have composites, extremely powerful and efficient turbofans etc and the game has moved on with the 380 so the technology has moved on
tut tut - posting this filth on here.... SPEED MATTERS ! 
This is the original BA livery as of the launch of teh airline in 1974 -
The shortened "British" titles were used from around 1980 until 1984 when the new Landor scheme was introduced.
Landor scheme -
The Landor scheme was a bit controversial when it was first revealed because it finally dropped the Speedbird from the logo - after 60 years. It was replaced by the red flash along the fuselage which was referred to as the "Speedwing".
The shortened "British" titles were used from around 1980 until 1984 when the new Landor scheme was introduced.
Landor scheme -
The Landor scheme was a bit controversial when it was first revealed because it finally dropped the Speedbird from the logo - after 60 years. It was replaced by the red flash along the fuselage which was referred to as the "Speedwing".
thatone1967 said:
Prawo Jazdy said:
What I meant was that I didn't think the Speedbird logo had actually been used by BA. I'd never noticed it on the old livery, but i've seen now that i've just been unobservant.
Was that a recent pic? I know they repainted one at the back end of last year to commemorate the end of the 757 service.HoHoHo said:
thatone1967 said:
Prawo Jazdy said:
What I meant was that I didn't think the Speedbird logo had actually been used by BA. I'd never noticed it on the old livery, but i've seen now that i've just been unobservant.
Was that a recent pic? I know they repainted one at the back end of last year to commemorate the end of the 757 service.thatone1967 said:
Was that a recent pic? I know they repainted one at the back end of last year to commemorate the end of the 757 service.
I think that is the commemoration one. I just picked it as I like the 757 and the Tridents etc in that livery all looked a bit tatty in comparison 
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