My 1968 Olsen Nimbus restoration project.
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Hello again. Found a bit of spare time, and I'm back on a roll again. I think...
Started to fit the glass back in today.
I have a combination of stainless steel, Varnish, and glass to prime for the Sikaflex.
So here are the various primers needed.
This stuff must be really bad for you, as it smells wonderfull!
Reminded me of my aircraft modelling days as a boy. It smells just like the dope used for shrinking the wing skins.
Glass masked and primed, first wiped with activator, then 206 G+P. (Which is black and isn't shown here.)
Then I masked the apetures, flatted them down with a scotch pad, and applied the 209 N.
I used 296 as it's specifically for bonding glass, but it's not UV resistant, so I'll be using 295 UV for the stainless frames that will cover the joint.
Here's a tip (Literaly ) Cut a V in the Sikaflex nozzle, so you can lay a triangular bead, which will squash down without trapp8ing air.
Glass in position.
Next job is to fit the frames.
It felt good to get back in my tent. Even if it was 31 degrees! A close call, as I can't use the sika products above 35.
Cheers,
Mick.
Started to fit the glass back in today.
I have a combination of stainless steel, Varnish, and glass to prime for the Sikaflex.
So here are the various primers needed.
This stuff must be really bad for you, as it smells wonderfull!
Reminded me of my aircraft modelling days as a boy. It smells just like the dope used for shrinking the wing skins.
Glass masked and primed, first wiped with activator, then 206 G+P. (Which is black and isn't shown here.)
Then I masked the apetures, flatted them down with a scotch pad, and applied the 209 N.
I used 296 as it's specifically for bonding glass, but it's not UV resistant, so I'll be using 295 UV for the stainless frames that will cover the joint.
Here's a tip (Literaly
) Cut a V in the Sikaflex nozzle, so you can lay a triangular bead, which will squash down without trapp8ing air.Glass in position.
Next job is to fit the frames.
It felt good to get back in my tent. Even if it was 31 degrees! A close call, as I can't use the sika products above 35.
Cheers,
Mick.
Edited by mickrick on Saturday 21st July 22:59
Lets just say that I spent more than double what the boat cost me in teak alone...
Just those primers and the sausage of Sika + a gun, where over 200 euro.
But it's not about the money. For me it's quality time tinkering about, making something just so.
I find it relaxing and satisfying.
Just those primers and the sausage of Sika + a gun, where over 200 euro.
But it's not about the money. For me it's quality time tinkering about, making something just so.
I find it relaxing and satisfying.
Edited by mickrick on Saturday 21st July 23:20
Hi KT, Tha glass is original, and the frames I had made to the same patern as the old anodised alluninium ones.
The inside of the deckhouse was sprayed before it was fitted. It was done with rubbed effect. I wanted to get plenty of varnish on the bottom edges too before it was screwed down forever.
Sounds like you're enjoying Island life again You do seem to have an affinity for Islands 
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My Wife is visiting her parents in Galicia this week, but I couldn't make it, as the Boss is out soon.
Yes John, a boom tent, but also a snug fitting cover for the deckhouse and cockpit.
I have a very good sailmaker here, who has been making the covers for me on my Boss's boat for the last 10 years. He does me a special "Workers" rate" .
As I already mentioned, he's already done the interior cushions for me, new foam and covers in Sunbrella, they're sitting wrapped up, waiting to go in.
Not yet though, as the engine is sitting in the cabin!
Did I already post a picture of the "iron sail" ?
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The inside of the deckhouse was sprayed before it was fitted. It was done with rubbed effect. I wanted to get plenty of varnish on the bottom edges too before it was screwed down forever.
Sounds like you're enjoying Island life again
You do seem to have an affinity for Islands .My Wife is visiting her parents in Galicia this week, but I couldn't make it, as the Boss is out soon.
Yes John, a boom tent, but also a snug fitting cover for the deckhouse and cockpit.
I have a very good sailmaker here, who has been making the covers for me on my Boss's boat for the last 10 years. He does me a special "Workers" rate"
.As I already mentioned, he's already done the interior cushions for me, new foam and covers in Sunbrella, they're sitting wrapped up, waiting to go in.
Not yet though, as the engine is sitting in the cabin!
Did I already post a picture of the "iron sail" ?
Simpo Two said:
You can't; it's a mod job.
(I'm still waiting for my starters BTW!)
O.K. I'll just have to have a dock BBQ when she's launched then. (I'm still waiting for my starters BTW!)
I think I'll dress ship too! It's getting on for 10 years since she had a wet bottom.
It took me 6 years to find out what her name meant! A chance conversation between my Wife and some Danish people cleared that one up.
I looked at lots of engines before choosing the Nanni.
Yamaha, Yanmar, etc. etc. but they all use the same base engine, a Kabota.
So I picked the Nanni because as it's going under the compionway, it was handy that the oil change pump, both fuel and oil filters, and raw water pump where all at the front of the engine.
It was also cheaper than the others. The first time that has happened to me in my life, I think!
Quite a bit lighter, physically smaller, and more powerfull than the DV10 I took out.
The DV10 has a new life as a training aid for the AEC class at Mallorca Sea School
The glass isn't bad, but it does have a few scratches in it, but nothing that bothered me enough to get it polished out. I call it patina
Yamaha, Yanmar, etc. etc. but they all use the same base engine, a Kabota.
So I picked the Nanni because as it's going under the compionway, it was handy that the oil change pump, both fuel and oil filters, and raw water pump where all at the front of the engine.
It was also cheaper than the others. The first time that has happened to me in my life, I think!
Quite a bit lighter, physically smaller, and more powerfull than the DV10 I took out.
The DV10 has a new life as a training aid for the AEC class at Mallorca Sea School
The glass isn't bad, but it does have a few scratches in it, but nothing that bothered me enough to get it polished out. I call it patina
Hello Bonkers Boat fans!
I managed to squeeze some time in between between being social, doing jobs around the house, cutting grass (again! Must stop watering it!), and keeping the wife happy, to get some quality time in on the Old Girl. (The boat not the wife) Oh, and work! Yes that thing that enables me to spend the hard earned...
The frames are on.
Everything masked up, and the Sika aktivator, and primer on the glass, and the primer for the piant/varnish applied.
The frames masked, keyed with scotchpad, and primed with the Sika metal primer.
Here they are with all the masking removed. Job Done!
I still have some deck hardware to remove, and some of it is a pig (I can say Pig becuase I'm not aboard ) to remove, as some of it has been "got at" in her 40 odd years, but the paint Guys are getting short of work due to the time of year, so they may as well get some paint on the topsides.
So I'll start getting that ready for them now.
That's exciting!
More to come!
Cheers, Mick
I managed to squeeze some time in between between being social, doing jobs around the house, cutting grass (again! Must stop watering it!), and keeping the wife happy, to get some quality time in on the Old Girl. (The boat not the wife)
Oh, and work! Yes that thing that enables me to spend the hard earned...The frames are on.
Everything masked up, and the Sika aktivator, and primer on the glass, and the primer for the piant/varnish applied.
The frames masked, keyed with scotchpad, and primed with the Sika metal primer.
Here they are with all the masking removed. Job Done!
I still have some deck hardware to remove, and some of it is a pig (I can say Pig becuase I'm not aboard
) to remove, as some of it has been "got at" in her 40 odd years, but the paint Guys are getting short of work due to the time of year, so they may as well get some paint on the topsides.So I'll start getting that ready for them now.
That's exciting!
More to come!
Cheers, Mick
Edited by mickrick on Tuesday 31st July 18:54
Megaflow said:
mickrick said:
I looked at lots of engines before choosing the Nanni.
Yamaha, Yanmar, etc. etc. but they all use the same base engine, a Kabota.
So I picked the Nanni because as it's going under the compionway, it was handy that the oil change pump, both fuel and oil filters, and raw water pump where all at the front of the engine.
It was also cheaper than the others. The first time that has happened to me in my life, I think!
Quite a bit lighter, physically smaller, and more powerfull than the DV10 I took out.
The DV10 has a new life as a training aid for the AEC class at Mallorca Sea School
The glass isn't bad, but it does have a few scratches in it, but nothing that bothered me enough to get it polished out. I call it patina
Did you consider the Volvo Penta?Yamaha, Yanmar, etc. etc. but they all use the same base engine, a Kabota.
So I picked the Nanni because as it's going under the compionway, it was handy that the oil change pump, both fuel and oil filters, and raw water pump where all at the front of the engine.
It was also cheaper than the others. The first time that has happened to me in my life, I think!
Quite a bit lighter, physically smaller, and more powerfull than the DV10 I took out.
The DV10 has a new life as a training aid for the AEC class at Mallorca Sea School
The glass isn't bad, but it does have a few scratches in it, but nothing that bothered me enough to get it polished out. I call it patina
It's been a couple of years ago since I bought the engine, so I can't realy remember what the numbers where.
Apart from the fact the Nanni was about 4k all in, with loom and control panel.
Not worth buggering about with the old Bukh 10hp IMO.
As for the Vovo, I would be very surprised if the base engine is in fact a Perkins.
I know some of the 4 cylinder Vovo's are, but to be honest, I'd rather have the Kubota.
They use them in mini diggers, so they're Paddy proof!
We also have two 26KVA Northern Lights generators on the boat I work on.
The spare parts come in "Luger" packaging, but they are in fact also Kubota 4 cylinder engines. Not a peep of trouble out of them in 7 years.
I know when I worked for Caterpillar many years ago, we used a 4 cylinder Perkins in the early Backho loaders, in fact we had a Perkins engineer perminantly on site. Caterpillar then bought Perkins engines in Peterborough to complete thier engine range.
I think the Perkins "Prima" was the new one out at the time.
Anyway, as I said, the installation and ease of maintainance where at the top of the list.
Cheers,
Mick.
Apart from the fact the Nanni was about 4k all in, with loom and control panel.
Not worth buggering about with the old Bukh 10hp IMO.
As for the Vovo, I would be very surprised if the base engine is in fact a Perkins.
I know some of the 4 cylinder Vovo's are, but to be honest, I'd rather have the Kubota.
They use them in mini diggers, so they're Paddy proof!
We also have two 26KVA Northern Lights generators on the boat I work on.
The spare parts come in "Luger" packaging, but they are in fact also Kubota 4 cylinder engines. Not a peep of trouble out of them in 7 years.
I know when I worked for Caterpillar many years ago, we used a 4 cylinder Perkins in the early Backho loaders, in fact we had a Perkins engineer perminantly on site. Caterpillar then bought Perkins engines in Peterborough to complete thier engine range.
I think the Perkins "Prima" was the new one out at the time.
Anyway, as I said, the installation and ease of maintainance where at the top of the list.
Cheers,
Mick.
Not much to report recently, but that doesn't mean I haven't been busy!
The biggest problem I have at the moment is the heat! We've had it up to 37 degrees recently, so I dread to think what it's been in the tent. Uncomfortable is all I know!
I've been popping up for an hour or two after work each day. That's about as much fluids as I can afford lose.
I've been removing the anti-fouling to expose the original water line. There was so much stuff on board when I bought her, the water line had been raised by about 4 inches.
So I'll be putting it back where it belongs.
I've also removed the rubbing strake, and have been cleaning off all the old sealer at the hull/deck joint.
I'll start with the orbital sander on Sunday. Basically it's prep for painting the topsides.
I also collected my lovely Anderson winches from the metal shop today.
There where some small inclusions in the material of the winch tops, so I had them welded up, and everything re-polished.
I'll be fitting new pawls and springs when the riggers whoe stock the parts for these open up again in September.
TAFN.
Regards to all you salty types,
Mick.
The biggest problem I have at the moment is the heat! We've had it up to 37 degrees recently, so I dread to think what it's been in the tent. Uncomfortable is all I know!
I've been popping up for an hour or two after work each day. That's about as much fluids as I can afford lose.
I've been removing the anti-fouling to expose the original water line. There was so much stuff on board when I bought her, the water line had been raised by about 4 inches.
So I'll be putting it back where it belongs.
I've also removed the rubbing strake, and have been cleaning off all the old sealer at the hull/deck joint.
I'll start with the orbital sander on Sunday. Basically it's prep for painting the topsides.
I also collected my lovely Anderson winches from the metal shop today.
There where some small inclusions in the material of the winch tops, so I had them welded up, and everything re-polished.
I'll be fitting new pawls and springs when the riggers whoe stock the parts for these open up again in September.
TAFN.
Regards to all you salty types,
Mick.
I've now got a few coats of PP varnish on the cockpit coaming, still need at least another 8 before a couple of coats of PU.
Colour's looking nice though.
I've also managed to get all the hardware off the decks. The jib tracks where a pain.
Aluminium screws all sheered off bar two. But the two I got out tell me how deep to re-drill the holes for the new ones.
I tried the boiling water trick, but to no avail.
I'll get a stainless guide plate laser CNC cut with the hole spacings for a guide to drill the new ones.
The toe rail is nasty, I won't bother saving it, as it's been sanded so much in the past, it's lost it's profile, and is now smaller than the faileads it runs into. It's also been badly repaired with but joints, instead of scarfing.
A new one will be made, and probably varnished.
Here's the last stubborn piece to go.
Here's the deck with everything off, and lots of sanding going on ! 43 years of none skid paint needed 40 grit !
Holes in the transom filled. Old exhaust, and swim ladder.
And faired.
Also lots of holes in the cockpit.
Filled bar the big one. I'll coat a bit of peel ply with epoxy, and pop it behind, so I can glass it in from the front, then pull the peel ply off after.
I also found a nice surprise when I pulled the mast step off.
Water has been getting under and has de-laminated the glass. I was very concerned to find foam core under it !
I don't think foam core's a good idea considering the compressive forces at the base of the mast, so I'll cut the top skin off and effect a repair.
Not shure if it's the right thing to do (Hard spot in an otherwise foam cored deck) but I'm going to fill the void with chopped strand/resin mush before glassing the top back.
There is quite a substantial steel saddle which spans the oak frames below the deck, so at least a solid glass bed will give it something firm to sit on.
I also sanded back the waterline I'd scraped back to the original lower waterline.
There was a white boot stripe painted under the old anti-fouling, which I presume must have been epoxy, as after a day or so, damp patches appeared where it was ! Crikey, the boat's been out of the water for 10 years ! just goes to show how good epoxy is, it's kept the moisture in all those years.
I marked the original waterline with my Dremmel before sanding it all back.
Here's a picture of the damp patches that appeared just where the boot stripe was.
So, out with the grit blasting pot to open up those pesky wet voids!
Here's a test patch I did, and you can see the voids.
Hopefully I'll get time to do it on Tuesday, repair the de-laminated bit of the deck, and maybe, just maybe, she'll have some epoxy primer on the deck before the weekend...
TTFN,
M.
Colour's looking nice though.
I've also managed to get all the hardware off the decks. The jib tracks where a pain.
Aluminium screws all sheered off bar two. But the two I got out tell me how deep to re-drill the holes for the new ones.
I tried the boiling water trick, but to no avail.
I'll get a stainless guide plate laser CNC cut with the hole spacings for a guide to drill the new ones.
The toe rail is nasty, I won't bother saving it, as it's been sanded so much in the past, it's lost it's profile, and is now smaller than the faileads it runs into. It's also been badly repaired with but joints, instead of scarfing.
A new one will be made, and probably varnished.
Here's the last stubborn piece to go.
Here's the deck with everything off, and lots of sanding going on ! 43 years of none skid paint needed 40 grit !
Holes in the transom filled. Old exhaust, and swim ladder.
And faired.
Also lots of holes in the cockpit.
Filled bar the big one. I'll coat a bit of peel ply with epoxy, and pop it behind, so I can glass it in from the front, then pull the peel ply off after.
I also found a nice surprise when I pulled the mast step off.
Water has been getting under and has de-laminated the glass. I was very concerned to find foam core under it !
I don't think foam core's a good idea considering the compressive forces at the base of the mast, so I'll cut the top skin off and effect a repair.
Not shure if it's the right thing to do (Hard spot in an otherwise foam cored deck) but I'm going to fill the void with chopped strand/resin mush before glassing the top back.
There is quite a substantial steel saddle which spans the oak frames below the deck, so at least a solid glass bed will give it something firm to sit on.
I also sanded back the waterline I'd scraped back to the original lower waterline.
There was a white boot stripe painted under the old anti-fouling, which I presume must have been epoxy, as after a day or so, damp patches appeared where it was ! Crikey, the boat's been out of the water for 10 years ! just goes to show how good epoxy is, it's kept the moisture in all those years.
I marked the original waterline with my Dremmel before sanding it all back.
Here's a picture of the damp patches that appeared just where the boot stripe was.
So, out with the grit blasting pot to open up those pesky wet voids!
Here's a test patch I did, and you can see the voids.
Hopefully I'll get time to do it on Tuesday, repair the de-laminated bit of the deck, and maybe, just maybe, she'll have some epoxy primer on the deck before the weekend...
TTFN,
M.
Mmm..not sure how to take that ?
I wouldn't call myself OC, I just like old things, and like to see then sympathetically restored.
My Father always told me if you can't do a job properly, don't bother doing it at all.
We need aspirations, well I do, otherwise we may as well just be waiting to die !
My only worry, is that when I finally get the Old Girl back in the water, I may just keep going! Out of the Med, South untill the butter melts, turn right, and just keep on going straight through Panama and back into the Pacific !
I did it over 17 years ago, and I still dream about going back.
I wouldn't call myself OC, I just like old things, and like to see then sympathetically restored.
My Father always told me if you can't do a job properly, don't bother doing it at all.
We need aspirations, well I do, otherwise we may as well just be waiting to die !
My only worry, is that when I finally get the Old Girl back in the water, I may just keep going! Out of the Med, South untill the butter melts, turn right, and just keep on going straight through Panama and back into the Pacific !
I did it over 17 years ago, and I still dream about going back.
XJSJohn said:
mickrick said:
Mmm..not sure how to take that ?
It was supposed to a touch of respect/ complimentmickrick said:
My only worry, is that when I finally get the Old Girl back in the water, I may just keep going! Out of the Med, South untill the butter melts, turn right, and just keep on going straight through Panama and back into the Pacific !
I did it over 17 years ago, and I still dream about going back.
If you do, will buy you a beer at the halfway point (I am about half way around here!)I did it over 17 years ago, and I still dream about going back.
I thought it may be a compliment. Thanks I've never been called Aspirational before !I don't think I'll get halfway if I ever get back into the Pacific. I could just spend the rest of my days going around and around those Island groups.
I know a good hurricane hole in Tonga.
I remember Tiger beer though, and those fantastic open air eating out markets !
I was there in early 1995 with Jimmy Cornel's Europa Round the world Rally.
We where in Raffles marina, and we where having a big night, the crew of over 30 yachts, untill they decided to close the bar at 22:00 !
Well, we opened it again and carried on
An official letter was sent to World cruising, informing them we where no longer welcome in Raffles marina !
I think the bubble bath in the pool with the waterfall sinched it.
No sense of humour
Anyway, I digress. The paint Guys got some primer on the deck for me today.
They also left me their nice big compressor so I can get the waterline grit blasted tomorrow. Top Blokes !
Lots of stoppering up to do, more sanding, and more primer yet.
Cheers Guys
Got the grit blasting done.
Crikey ! It took me ages. Biggest problem was that even with two compressors linked together, I still didn't have enough CFM's. I have realized you need lots for media blasting !
I spent more time waiting for the compressors to come up to pressure than I did blasting.
I ran out of light last night, and I just managed to get the rest done this evening. What a mess ! Horrible job, I think when I'm ready, I'll pay to get the bottom done
Anyway, I've cleaned up, and need to get back there sometime before the weeksend to wash down the area I've blasted with some fresh water to remove any contaminants, and wait for the wet spots to dry out before putting some Gelshield on there.
It has been hot. yesterday was 28, and inside the tent with full suit face mask etc, I was dripping inside my suit.
Anyway, I need to get some stuff packed up and sent off for re-anodising now.
TTFN, M
Got the grit blasting done.
Crikey ! It took me ages. Biggest problem was that even with two compressors linked together, I still didn't have enough CFM's. I have realized you need lots for media blasting !
I spent more time waiting for the compressors to come up to pressure than I did blasting.
I ran out of light last night, and I just managed to get the rest done this evening. What a mess ! Horrible job, I think when I'm ready, I'll pay to get the bottom done
Anyway, I've cleaned up, and need to get back there sometime before the weeksend to wash down the area I've blasted with some fresh water to remove any contaminants, and wait for the wet spots to dry out before putting some Gelshield on there.
It has been hot. yesterday was 28, and inside the tent with full suit face mask etc, I was dripping inside my suit.
Anyway, I need to get some stuff packed up and sent off for re-anodising now.
TTFN, M
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