A Large Rig Carrying Ship

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markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Fuel was $300k !!
Just think of the Shell points you'll get though.

Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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scottyegg said:
The heerema Thialf is around $100,000 per day, give or take depending on what its doing/lifting/and its location
The Thialf and Saipem s7000 (the only two twin 7000te HLV's operational at the moment) are both WAY more than $100k/day!

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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yes i was very wrong, take for example an offshore structure based in the northsea of around 1000T

just it costs its about $3-2,000,000 dollers for mobilisation/de-mobilisation

and around $600,000 a day onsite these are just rough figures, and can vairy masivly depending on what its lifting how its lifting, location ECT ECT ECT

Edited by scottyegg on Tuesday 29th November 12:44

Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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yeah that's more like it. $550-750 depending on market and, as you say, what work is aftually being done.

Mob usually 3-7 days and demob 2-4 days at a slightly lesser rate so your costs are bang-on there.

Seen the new monster from Allseas, the Pieter Schelte? Single lift catamaran, 47,000te lifting capacity! :-0

dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Lefty said:
scottyegg said:
The heerema Thialf is around $100,000 per day, give or take depending on what its doing/lifting/and its location
The Thialf and Saipem s7000 (the only two twin 7000te HLV's operational at the moment) are both WAY more than $100k/day!
IIRC it was about $1,000,000 per day for typical North Sea jacket installations back in about 2000 ?

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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yes, ive seen the new allseas project, going to be the biggest offshore installation/decommisioning vessel in the sea, i gather you work in the industry?

Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Lefty said:
yeah that's more like it. $550-750 depending on market and, as you say, what work is aftually being done.

Mob usually 3-7 days and demob 2-4 days at a slightly lesser rate so your costs are bang-on there.

Seen the new monster from Allseas, the Pieter Schelte? Single lift catamaran, 47,000te lifting capacity! :-0
:cough:
White elephant
:cough:




IMHO wink
Well...they've placed a lot of contracts.

Delivery for end of '13 and operational for summer campaigns in 2015? Maybe Optimistic.

True 47000te lifting capcity? Optimistic too.

The vessel is a clever concept and they are pushing it very aggressively. Not surprising given the cash they're throwing at it.

Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Yeah, I know what you're saying. They are definitely building a dumb barge to do the HLV>quayside transfer.

I think are pretty clear advantages for the decommissioning - a bare minimum of separations work offshore and the vessel would be in the field for a much shorter time period than doing reverse installation.

It all depends how they contract the work - I would imagine they will offer contracts on a lump-sum basis (with huge weather windows) and guarantee to remove the topsides. If SLV doesn't work they will resort to reverse-install.


XJSJohn

15,966 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Just had a few beers with a commercial guy who is well known in the diving / dsv world out here that a few of you probably know, (long term Asia, American ex diver) and the day rates for some of these things on short charter will make your balls ache, that dock wise dayrate is north of anything bmentioned here...


+\- beer & bs factor on both parts....

Edited by XJSJohn on Tuesday 29th November 15:04

Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Aye I've seen a good DP3 DSV go well over $500k in a hot market and the big DP HLV's up over $800k. Even anchor-handled HLV's can get pricey when the demand is there.




vtgts300kw

598 posts

178 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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I find this stuff biblically fascinating.

Please keep posting.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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vtgts300kw said:
I find this stuff biblically fascinating.

Please keep posting.
+1

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Also my companies very own:





Main Hoist Lifting Height
95 m (312 ft) above work deck for each crane. Lowering depth of auxiliary hoists 460 m (1,500 ft) below work deck at minimum radius.

Main Hoist Plumbing Depth
Lowering depth of main hoist at minimum radius with 3,500 t is 307 meters below heel point and with 2,990 t, 351 meters below heel point. Heel point is 24.4 meters (80 ft) above work deck.

Tandem Lift
Main hoist 14,200 t (15,600 sht) at 31.2 meters (102 ft) radius (subject to stability calculations).


Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Aye she's a big old thing, what's her record lift?

Seem to recall the s7000 doing just over 12,000te?

You work for Heerema then? I had a chat with your bosses brother the other day wink

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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the saipem 7000 record was the BP Valhall 11,600 tonnes

and which boss? we have a few

Lefty

16,169 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Pieter Heerema. His brother Edward runs Allseas and is developing the Pieter Schelte.

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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ahh yeah, so he does, but there wayyyy about my pay grade, only ever seen the guy once

Popeyed

543 posts

220 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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scottyegg said:
the saipem 7000 record was the BP Valhall 11,600 tonnes

and which boss? we have a few
She lifted over 12,000 tonnes with the Sabratha topsides in Libya. The difference being that she was on DP for the BP lift, on her anchor spread for the lift in Libya. However, the Sabratha lift strained the old girl; some unhealthy cracks appeared in the void spaces forward following that lift!

Edited by Popeyed on Sunday 4th December 00:57

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Heerema's

Tandem Lift
Main hoist 14,200 t at 31.2 meters (102 ft) radius (subject to stability calculations).


The Saipem 7000

Lifting facilities main crane:
2 twin S 7000 model fully revolving bow mounted Amhoist
cranes. Main blocks tandem lift: 14,000 t

very very little in lifting capacity, in real world terms i would have thought


however the saipem does have a big advantage in the fact it has the option of an additional J-Lay tower which can be fitted which the Thialf doesnt

Edited by scottyegg on Sunday 4th December 21:37


Edited by scottyegg on Sunday 4th December 21:37

scottyegg

22 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Heerema's

Tandem Lift Main hoist 14,200 t


The Saipem 7000

Main blocks tandem lift: 14,000 t

very very little in lifting capacity, in real world terms i would have thought


however the saipem does have a big advantage in the fact it has the option of an additional J-Lay tower which can be fitted which the Thialf doesnt



Edited by scottyegg on Sunday 4th December 21:38