What's Concorde?

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Frankeh

12,558 posts

186 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Concorde suffered with the advent of the internet age. Why spend a couple grand on a ticket to go meet business people when you can video conference with people from all around the world for free.

It had other problems, I imagine. But still, that's big one.

twister

1,454 posts

237 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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RichB said:
I was very fortunate to be treated by my wife to a flight in Concorde as a 40th birthday celebration. A wonderful experience which I will never forget, not least because we all got to visit the flight deck and while chatting to the captain he said he had a TVR. Returned to my seat and mentioned this to my wife to which she remarked "take you on Concorde and you end up talking about cars!" hehe
My dad and I were on one of the 90 minute flights out of Fairford they used to do during the Air Tattoo in the mid/late 90's. Incredible experience, a cabin full of people who genuinely wanted to be there, cabin crew demonstrating the absolute best of British Airways in working to ensure we had a perfect flight, and a flight crew who were happy to demonstrate just how fast you could take off with a lightly-loaded Concorde... dearsweetmotherofthemaker, the acceleration on full burner was like nothing I've experienced outside of a fun fair, and the sustained feeling of being pressed into my seat during the climb out was just surreal - just when you thought it was about to ease off, oomph there it went up another notch.

Then, 30 or so minutes later, experiencing the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the bird - from roaring beast on takeoff to 5 star restaurant gliding supersonically above the clouds without so much as a murmur. Food served on real plates, eaten with real cutlery (even in those pre 9/11 years, this was an eye-opener for those of us who normally travelled cattle class or on charters), washed down with a seemingly endless supply of champagne. For a few glorious moments we got to live like Kings and Queens, and I doubt you could have found anyone on the planet who felt happier than the 100 of us right there and then.

I know it was a commercial failure, but I think the human race needs the occasional burst of collective free thinking/madness that gives us such magnificent creations - how much value can you place on the lifted spirits, brightened moods and general feelings of awe and wonder that came from even a brief glimpse of Concorde?

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Cock Womble 7 said:
ApexJimi said:
Cock Womble 7 said:
Concord was, IMHO, a brilliant failure.
Failure in what respect?
A costly experiment that never paid for itself, despite the cost of a ticket. Required financial bail-outs from both governments involved to keep it flying. An aviation money-pit.

Still fking brilliant though.
And still one of the most beautiful and graceful 'planes ever to take to the skies.

kiteless

11,738 posts

205 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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twister said:
My dad and I were on one of the 90 minute flights out of Fairford they used to do during the Air Tattoo in the mid/late 90's. Incredible experience, a cabin full of people who genuinely wanted to be there, cabin crew demonstrating the absolute best of British Airways in working to ensure we had a perfect flight, and a flight crew who were happy to demonstrate just how fast you could take off with a lightly-loaded Concorde... dearsweetmotherofthemaker, the acceleration on full burner was like nothing I've experienced outside of a fun fair, and the sustained feeling of being pressed into my seat during the climb out was just surreal - just when you thought it was about to ease off, oomph there it went up another notch.

Then, 30 or so minutes later, experiencing the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the bird - from roaring beast on takeoff to 5 star restaurant gliding supersonically above the clouds without so much as a murmur. Food served on real plates, eaten with real cutlery (even in those pre 9/11 years, this was an eye-opener for those of us who normally travelled cattle class or on charters), washed down with a seemingly endless supply of champagne. For a few glorious moments we got to live like Kings and Queens, and I doubt you could have found anyone on the planet who felt happier than the 100 of us right there and then.

I know it was a commercial failure, but I think the human race needs the occasional burst of collective free thinking/madness that gives us such magnificent creations - how much value can you place on the lifted spirits, brightened moods and general feelings of awe and wonder that came from even a brief glimpse of Concorde?
Great post yes



perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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King Herald said:
And still one of the most beautiful and graceful 'planes ever to take to the skies.
I was thinking just this ^^ when I stood beneath her at Brooklands on New Year's Day..

(mutter mutter and the Concorde Experience wasn't running... dammit dammit mutter mutter)

lankybob

1,706 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Geneve said:
And 'Alpha Bravo' is still at Heathrow, isn't it?
http://g.co/maps/qmfvz
There it is. We taxied passed it a few years ago after its retirement. I got incredibly excited as it wasn't in the what looks to be a half building then so I thought it may be going again.

Come to think of it, it may have been during the testing period as when we got back from a holiday they were testing Concord(e) and we saw it accelerate from behind. One of my favourite memories that is.
I also watched it take off with my mother one time from a petrol station across the road. The noise, the speed and everything about that will make this plane my favourite ever.

It is a shame about your child though. However you cannot blame him. I probably would not know what it is if it was retired in 1991 (actually I probably would have but that's because I have always been interested in engineering).
My little brother who is 7 now will not know what it is and will also be appalled at the pollution from a steam train as another small child was. That's modern teacking for you. He once told me off for using too much water when washing my car. I soon put him straight.

rufusgti

2,532 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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I thought of this thread as I listened to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 on Monday. He was interviewing a pilot from WW2 who flew spitfires. The pilot described how he had to get the target in his line of sight to shoot at them, and was describing the kind of firepower the spitfires had.

Vine then asked him how many gunmen were on the plane. I think he asked if the gunman was sat at the back. The pilot stopped for a few seconds then had to explain the Spitfire was a single seater.

I'm not sure what that says of Jeremy Vine but i'm very suprised a chap his age wouldn't know how many seats a Spitfire had.

Eric Mc

122,112 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Maybe he was talking about the plane the Spitfire was attacking.

Did he REALLY call them "gunmen" though?



croyde

23,025 posts

231 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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rufusgti said:
I thought of this thread as I listened to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 on Monday. He was interviewing a pilot from WW2 who flew spitfires. The pilot described how he had to get the target in his line of sight to shoot at them, and was describing the kind of firepower the spitfires had.

Vine then asked him how many gunmen were on the plane. I think he asked if the gunman was sat at the back. The pilot stopped for a few seconds then had to explain the Spitfire was a single seater.

I'm not sure what that says of Jeremy Vine but i'm very suprised a chap his age wouldn't know how many seats a Spitfire had.
laugh Surely not.

So the Spitfire was chasing a Dornier full of guys wearing dark glasses and brandishing AK-47s.

bluebear

604 posts

155 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Cock Womble 7 said:
Concord was, IMHO, a brilliant failure.
IMHO you suck !

Eric Mc

122,112 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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bluebear said:
Cock Womble 7 said:
Concord was, IMHO, a brilliant failure.
IMHO you suck !
Don't get personal please.

CW7 is correct.

onyx39

11,129 posts

151 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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bluebear said:
Cock Womble 7 said:
Concord was, IMHO, a brilliant failure.
IMHO you suck !
he is absolutely correct.
The aircraft was and always will be a brilliant peice of engineering, but how many did the manufacturers sell?

Eric Mc

122,112 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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None - technically.

They were given to the two operators for nominal sums.

onyx39

11,129 posts

151 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
None - technically.

They were given to the two operators for nominal sums.
I know... question was non rhetorical..

smile

miniman

25,057 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
bluebear said:
Cock Womble 7 said:
Concord was, IMHO, a brilliant failure.
IMHO you suck !
Don't get personal please.

CW7 is correct.
On which point?

Eric Mc

122,112 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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He only made one point.

miniman

25,057 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
He only made one point.
Not at all, he made two. One about it being a brilliant failure, the other that the OP had mis-spelled it.

bluebear

604 posts

155 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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the only reason these air craft are not still flying is because of spineless operators

Eric Mc

122,112 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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miniman said:
Eric Mc said:
He only made one point.
Not at all, he made two. One about it being a brilliant failure, the other that the OP had mis-spelled it.
I was ignoring the spelling issue - which had been discussed in detail earlier.