Costa Concordia What will happen to it now?

[paolow]

AlexiusG55 said:

If it counts as having sunk then it certainly will be- it's immensely bad luck to put a salvaged ship back into service without renaming it. Of course, it probably will be renamed anyway- cruise ships are renamed at the drop of a hat...

Its also very bad luck to rename a ship for any reason so clearly they are a bit stuck either way....

[Rich1973]

Just heard on the radio that explosives are now being used on the side of the ship to make areas accessable to divers that havn't been up to now....

[Jaguar steve]

Simpo Two said:

AlexiusG55 said:

Of course, it probably will be renamed anyway- cruise ships are renamed at the drop of a hat...

Indeed - heading across the Cook Strait (between the North and South islands of New Zealand) I was surprised to see under the ferry's name 'Pride of Cherbourg'!

You weren't helping out with navigation on a day trip to France were you? I know you river cruising types tend to get lost if the bank is more than twenty feet away

[Simpo Two]

Jaguar steve said:

You weren't helping out with navigation on a day trip to France were you? I know you river cruising types tend to get lost if the bank is more than twenty feet away

Now you mention it it did seem to take a long time to get to the other side...

I was surprised that a channel ferry was up to a semi-circumnavigation of the world; didn't think they were designed for ocean crossings.

[Huntsman]

I think the ship that fell over at Zeebrugge was in service for many years later.

Concordia - quick T cut and it'll be fine!

[mickrick]

Just been watching the news, and they played a recording of the conversation between the captain and rescue services.
The fker was one of the first off, and wouldn't get back on board, he couldn't even tell the MRC how many people where on board.

I take back my previous comment about him being in jail.
He should be publicly excecuted for cowardice! I'd like to tell him right now to his face too. fker.

And breathe..........

[AlexiusG55]

paolow said:

AlexiusG55 said:

If it counts as having sunk then it certainly will be- it's immensely bad luck to put a salvaged ship back into service without renaming it. Of course, it probably will be renamed anyway- cruise ships are renamed at the drop of a hat...

Its also very bad luck to rename a ship for any reason so clearly they are a bit stuck either way....

Ships that sink are the exception to that rule- the USS Squalus sank in 1939 due to a valve failure and was renamed Sailfish after being salvaged. The new captain had to threaten to maroon anyone caught using the word "Squalus" on board!

Similarly, the RN lost HMS Thetis in 1939. Thetis was renamed Thunderbolt after being salvaged- then became one of the few vessels to sink with all hands TWICE in 1943.

[spitfire-ian]

Huntsman said:

I think the ship that fell over at Zeebrugge was in service for many years later.

No, after the salvage it was renamed Flushing Range and towed off to be scrapped.

[Gaspowered]

You'll probably find that ships are no longer scrapped in the way most people imagine, ie dragged up a beach somewhere in Pakistan, but 'recycled'. The hull and equipment carefully and safely cut up and where possible reused (ok may not be possible with salt water damage). The cost of recycling is around the same as the scrap value of the steel, so the company may not get any scrap value from the vessel

[Simpo Two]

mickrick said:

The fker was one of the first off, and wouldn't get back on board, he couldn't even tell the MRC how many people where on board.

It does seem odd how Western captains generally do the 'women and children first' and are last to leave, whilst those from certain other countries simply leg it on the first lifeboat...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/i...

[scarebus]

A member of the Smit salvage team was interviewed yesterday and asked the same question. He said the vessel was too large and will need to be cut into sections and then removed.
This involves placing a large chain around the ship and then pulled in a circular motion, the turning forces and friction will cut through the entire cross section.
This process will likely take 3-4 months to complete.

As for theories about righting and floating her would be near on impossible. She weighs 115,000 Tonnes and has approximately 1000 cabin windows, balconies, port holes and breaches in the hull. The forces required to pull her upright would easily over whelm the delicate upper super structure.

A very sad sight indeed.

[Simpo Two]

scarebus said:

She weighs 115,000 Tonnes

Bloody hell, even the battleship Yamato was only 65,000 tons!

[scarebus]

Simpo Two said:

Bloody hell, even the battleship Yamato was only 65,000 tons!

Titanic only weighed 48,000 tonnes

But the Costa Concordia is a baby compared to this monster Allure of the Seas 225,000(GT)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allure_of_the_se...

[XB70]

Simpo Two said:

It does seem odd how Western captains generally do the 'women and children first' and are last to leave, whilst those from certain other countries simply leg it on the first lifeboat...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/i...

And post Titanic, left a large number of families without the breadwinner.

[H100S]

scarebus said:

Titanic only weighed 48,000 tonnes

But the Costa Concordia is a baby compared to this monster Allure of the Seas 225,000(GT)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allure_of_the_se...

Wow, that is one ugly cruise ship!

[MOTORVATOR]

Simpo Two said:

It does seem odd how Western captains generally do the 'women and children first' and are last to leave, whilst those from certain other countries simply leg it on the first lifeboat...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/i...

Your opinions on this matter are duly noted and Bacardi and I will take comfort in this when invited on board HMS Simpo.












If I wear a skirt can I go before Bacardi?

[Simpo Two]

MOTORVATOR said:

If I wear a skirt can I go before Bacardi?

Rats leaving the sinking ship eh?

Never fear, the river is only 3" deep and the banks are but a light spring away

[dvs_dave]

spitfire-ian said:

Huntsman said:

I think the ship that fell over at Zeebrugge was in service for many years later.

No, after the salvage it was renamed Flushing Range and towed off to be scrapped.

However her sister ship (now MS Anthi Marina), post a jumboisation and new bow, still plies the Aegean. Saw her looking a bit scruffy in Piraeus a couple of years ago. Also saw the Concordia looking rather better at the same time.

[XJSJohn]

It will probably be patched, and dragged to a yard somewhere in Asia, where it will be refitted and a Casino ship and put into operation somewhere in Asia, no doubt renamed something auspicious like "Lucky Dragon" or some such!

One of the China / SE Asia cruise operators is going to get a cut price modern cruise ship to add to their fleet of old nags

[Jaguar steve]

Simpo Two said:

Jaguar steve said:

You weren't helping out with navigation on a day trip to France were you? I know you river cruising types tend to get lost if the bank is more than twenty feet away

Now you mention it it did seem to take a long time to get to the other side...

I was surprised that a channel ferry was up to a semi-circumnavigation of the world; didn't think they were designed for ocean crossings.

Providing there's enough beer on board you can sail almost anything almost anywhere with seamanship and batten down the hatches heavy weather handling skills. Apart perhaps from the enough beer on board bit that's somthing else you river cruisng types... oh never mind