Costa Concordia What will happen to it now?

Costa Concordia What will happen to it now?

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H100S

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1,436 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Firstly i know there is a thread running already but it seems to be focusing on the events, route captain etc.

My curiousity is not intended to be disrespectful to those still unaccounted for but what will happen to it once the search has been stopped and all fluids drained off that pose a threat to the environment?

Will it be towed scrapped, sunk in deep water, could it even ever be repaired and refitted?

I dont know anything about boats but what you do with a massive boat like that stuck on the rocks has me curious.

badboyburt

2,043 posts

177 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Boat or ship ?

H100S

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1,436 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Cruise Ship

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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It's not stuck on the rock, the rock is stuck on it. Assuming the structural survey that'll happen shortly says it's still solid enough to be moved, they'll likely patch the hole enough to refloat it, and then take it to a drydock.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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They believe it is stuck on rocks the other side as well, ie the side that is currently down.

The theory in the other thread is that it will be scrapped as the damage too extensive, it will need a total refit etc, and of course passengers wont be keen on travelling on it.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Salvage I suppose. A couple of Dutch tugs are probably already on their way...

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I guess the Dutch salvage team will asses the structure, and then either
a) weld some new plates over the rip then they will start pumping the water out and putting in flotation devices before righting the ship using a couple of cranes.
b) decide it wont float again and get the cutting and lifting gear out.

Either way its going to cost Lloyds a shed load of money as they will cover the majority of the cost (£30 million excess I believe).

MonkeyBusiness

3,935 posts

187 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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From what I've read its highly likely she is a total loss.

The cost to patch the hull on both sides since her hull is probably crushed from sitting unevenly on her side. Then her engines, generators, electrics would all have to be replaced or rebuild. Then the interior would have to be replaced.

bleesh

1,112 posts

254 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I saw a convoy of shoddy looking white Transit flatbeds heading off towards the channel ports, so the Dutch guys don't even need to bother coming out of the schmoking cafes - by the time they get to Italy there will be fcensoredk all left of the ship

paulrussell

2,105 posts

161 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I would think it'll be refloated to be scrapped, as I don't see the people who use the habuor will be happy for the ship to stay there for a few weeks.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

211 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I've read that it's likely to be a total loss, but I expect it depends on the wording of the policy in force on it. In pure financial terms I'm sure it's viable to repair, but the operator will probably want it scrapped as passengers won't want to travel on it. It's only 6 years old so only 1/4 through its working life and unlikely to be beyond economic repair - it's not like a car built on a production line and repaired by hand so repair costs aren't that far from build costs.

The excess is $30m and the operator expects to lose up to $95m in earnings as a result of the accident but they have also hinted they think it could be back up and running next season so maybe the loss of capacity is more financially damaging than the reputation of the vessel might be.

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

191 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Presumably the captain will have indemnity insurance as well as the company? Anyone know for how much he would be covered?

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I suspect the company may be pleased its gone. They'll be able to transfer passengers booked on it on to other ships and will not have to sell the trips at discounted rates to fill them!

Insurance will cover a lot of the costs of its loss.

Surely the transits are on the way to strip it off cable! And you'll soon find the whole thing at some scrpyard in south london!

Gaspowered

311 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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I think they'll try and salvage. The cost to replace the equipment, to repair the hull and make her seaworthy again is small compared to replacing the vessel. The average cost to build one is around $500,000,000.

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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I will be surprised if it's scrapped.
I haven't seen the other thread. Hopefully the captain will be in Jail Twunt!

MonkeyBusiness

3,935 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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What would be the scrap value?

I would imagine despite the damage internally there is a fair amount that can be reused. All the radar and computer equipment on the bridge (or rather the 50% not under water) can be salvaged.

As mentioned above, I reckon its the after effects of sailing on a ship that has so much damage and media coverage that will be a big problem.

MonkeyBusiness

3,935 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Dave_ITR

834 posts

197 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Chrisgr31 said:
and of course passengers wont be keen on travelling on it.
I'm sure it would be re-named should it ever be back in service.

AlexiusG55

655 posts

156 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Dave_ITR said:
I'm sure it would be re-named should it ever be back in service.
If it counts as having sunk then it certainly will be- it's immensely bad luck to put a salvaged ship back into service without renaming it. Of course, it probably will be renamed anyway- cruise ships are renamed at the drop of a hat...

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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AlexiusG55 said:
Of course, it probably will be renamed anyway- cruise ships are renamed at the drop of a hat...
Indeed - heading across the Cook Strait (between the North and South islands of New Zealand) I was surprised to see under the ferry's name 'Pride of Cherbourg'!