Those planes that drop water out the bottom...
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Oakey said:
Surely they don't scoop?
Kinda what I was wondering / wanting to see. A pilot who can scoop a 747 must find it difficult to hold the stick with his huge gonads in the way 
The tower then fills slowly while the 747 is off delivering it's payload.
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Fixed wing aircraft aside, lots of governments/air arms use helicopters. Often when there is a nearby lake that isn't long enough to allow a fixed wing water bomber such as the CL415 a scoop run.
Erickson Air Crane where they use a hose to suck water up in to an internal tank.
Bambi bucket where they dunk the bucket under the water and lift it back out.
Fixed wing aircraft aside, lots of governments/air arms use helicopters. Often when there is a nearby lake that isn't long enough to allow a fixed wing water bomber such as the CL415 a scoop run.
Erickson Air Crane where they use a hose to suck water up in to an internal tank.
Bambi bucket where they dunk the bucket under the water and lift it back out.
Is this real and if so how would it happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBcC8zqNjKk
Is it because of pressure and and massive shift in weight?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBcC8zqNjKk
Is it because of pressure and and massive shift in weight?
Sadly it is only too real.
The wing collapsed due to spar fatigue.
Fire bombers are usually older aircraft that have been retired from their original purpose (with the exception of the Canadairs and the Berievs which are purpose built). As a result they may have hidden wear and tear. Also, the flight profiles adopted by these aircraft are quite different to what they were originally designed for (with the exception of the purpose built aircraft, of course).
The wing collapsed due to spar fatigue.
Fire bombers are usually older aircraft that have been retired from their original purpose (with the exception of the Canadairs and the Berievs which are purpose built). As a result they may have hidden wear and tear. Also, the flight profiles adopted by these aircraft are quite different to what they were originally designed for (with the exception of the purpose built aircraft, of course).
Yachtworker said:
I'm sorry but I have no idea of what they are called and equally sorry for the quality of the photos, but I was down in La Ciotat for work today and 3 of these were doing circuits all morning
They operate out of Marseille airport, you can see them when you taxi to the terminal or from the comfort of your home on google maps http://maps.google.fr/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.435307,5....If you ever have occasion to go to Marignane itself (small town right next to the airport) there is one on display in the car park of the town 'square', I have a camera phone pic of it somewhere.
During the summers I lived down that way they'd be up all the time, sadly never saw them refilling, but local tv had a spot about them on the local news and they would fill up just outside the main container port in Marseille. Something that struck me as somewhat unwise but there you go!
The Spanish also have some based at Porta Polensa in Northern Majorca. I've been there a couple of times but sadly I've never actually seen them in action.
Interestingly, the seaplane base was used by the Italians during the Spanish Civil War to bomb Republican strongholds in and around Barcelona.
Interestingly, the seaplane base was used by the Italians during the Spanish Civil War to bomb Republican strongholds in and around Barcelona.
Eric Mc said:
The Spanish also have some based at Porta Polensa in Northern Majorca. I've been there a couple of times but sadly I've never actually seen them in action.
Interestingly, the seaplane base was used by the Italians during the Spanish Civil War to bomb Republican strongholds in and around Barcelona.
My family used to have a roof flat there, used to see them come over low quite often, both picking up and dropping water in the bay.Interestingly, the seaplane base was used by the Italians during the Spanish Civil War to bomb Republican strongholds in and around Barcelona.
I've also had the pleasure of being out sailing as the boat comes in to land. I wish I a) had a good camera, and b) was a decent photographer, I could have had some great shots.
Sorry Eric! I'm not trying to rub it in!
Eric Mc said:
The Spanish also have some based at Porta Polensa in Northern Majorca. I've been there a couple of times but sadly I've never actually seen them in action.
Interestingly, the seaplane base was used by the Italians during the Spanish Civil War to bomb Republican strongholds in and around Barcelona.
I have seen them in action where I live on Ibiza, last year we had some of the biggest fires that the Island has ever seen 600 Hectares one of them,and we had 4 of the big Canadian planes & 2 helicopters plus one other smaller single engined aircraft which is based on Ibiza, plus the army and Civil Volunteers, not a nice sight but amazing to watch.Interestingly, the seaplane base was used by the Italians during the Spanish Civil War to bomb Republican strongholds in and around Barcelona.
The Helicopters would just drop their bags into any pools in the area to take water and the smaller plane had to return to the airport to take on water, the fire went on for a fair few days, as there is no flying at night plus that was the time that the winds picked up each night.
One of the other problems was that they were fighting a fire amongst Pine trees, so that each small cone,branch would get carried by the wind maybe a mile and then start another fire.
All started by a Beekeeper tending his Hives with his little smoke bottle and one spark started it all off.
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