Superyacht sinks near greece
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Mermaid said:
Italian sinks before the Greek one.... 
Portuguese next?
Ther Irish got their first - Portuguese next?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgard_II
Eric Mc said:
Mermaid said:
Italian sinks before the Greek one....
Portuguese next?
Ther Irish got their first - Portuguese next?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgard_II
Zaxxon said:
mybrainhurts said:
Not bizarre at all...
Would you find this in Scun
Sooooooo, if the Billionaire owner is English, they kit their yacht out with an Inglenook Fireplace, hunting pictures and rake beams?Would you find this in Scun
Your complaint makes no sense.
jonny142 said:
Not being a boat expert, but how does a large boat like this sink from a mechanical failure in gale-force winds ?...I Guess by taking in water from the decks or below and not being able to pump it out ?...am interested
Assuming it didn't hit something becoming holed below the waterline, it is possible that one of the through hull fittings failed - something like an intake for engine cooling. It doesn't take a large hole to allow a very large amount of water in - Yogi had a 2.9 meter draught. A 4 inch hole at that depth would allow nearly 1000 gallons per minute in. An 8 inch hole would be nearer 4000 gallons per minute, which is about 18 tonnes of water.You can see that you would need a very large amount of pumping capacity to keep up with that kind of ingress, so the only hope is to somehow block the hole to reduce the flow, but you don't have much time to do it. If watertight doors are not closed then it might become impossible to stop.
PW said:
I have seen a quote attributed to the Captain saying it was the exhaust.
Interesting. Had a main engine SW muffler pump fail on one boat which resulted in the rubber bellows on the exhaust overboard melting. Caught it early but could certainly lead to serious water ingress if left long enough. It doesn't take much of a rough sea to gas up your SW pumps either. Sounds feasible.
mybrainhurts said:
Eric Mc said:
Mermaid said:
Italian sinks before the Greek one....
Portuguese next?
Ther Irish got their first - Portuguese next?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgard_II
PW said:
I find it truly bizarre that someone would seriously think that interior design is a reliable barometer for determining ethnicity.
Sorry but you misunderstand and misquote me. Nobody mentioned a 'reliable barometer' and nothing is determined.I was merely wondering who the owner of the unfortunate vessel might be. There was no clue other than the style of the interior. You say 9% of deliveries in 2008 were to Asia, so *statistically* it is less likely for an Asian-owned yacht to sink than one the other 91%. 'P0.1' if you like. Fine. However the fact that one with an Asian style interior sank makes it *more likely* that it was one of the 9%. '>P0.1'. It is no more than a slight hunch, and I am happy to be wrong, but all things being equal the *probability* is higher.
My crime is in daring to suggest that a person might be *more likely* to decorate his boat in the style of his own culture than that of somebody else's. I am a European and have decorated the inside of my boat in a European style. I could have had it look Mexican or Japanese, but chose European because that's what I feel comfortable with. And similarly a wealthy Chinese person, if they were decorating their luxury yacht, is I believe more likely to have a Chinese flavour to it than, say, two bull horns and the stars and stripes
Moving on, it is somewhat alarming that a one-year old boat, well ship really, could sink so easily and I await the cause too.
I'm on a pretty big yacht (bigger than Yogi), and compared to the ships on which I've sailed, it is still a little boat. A toy. The two do not compare even slightly.mybrainhurts said:
Zaxxon said:
mybrainhurts said:
Not bizarre at all...
Would you find this in Scun
Sooooooo, if the Billionaire owner is English, they kit their yacht out with an Inglenook Fireplace, hunting pictures and rake beams?
No but, if the yacht appeared thus, it's likely that the owner is English, is it not?Would you find this in Scun
Sooooooo, if the Billionaire owner is English, they kit their yacht out with an Inglenook Fireplace, hunting pictures and rake beams?
Your complaint makes no sense.
The last yacht we built that looked like an English stately home inside, (dead animals and all) was for a Spannish chap.
With regards to the images and video its a bit odd as there appears to be an overboard pumping out a fair bit of water which looks like it comes from a gen set, all the lights are on and she isn't deadship but went over too quickly for the crew to launch their own rescue tender. Should this of happened mid Atlantic then it would have been a catastrophe!
There's a video of it going down here;
http://vimeo.com/36961557
Very sad to see something that a lot of people have worked very hard to create (and possibly someone else has worked very hard to afford to buy) disappearing beneath the waves.
http://vimeo.com/36961557
Very sad to see something that a lot of people have worked very hard to create (and possibly someone else has worked very hard to afford to buy) disappearing beneath the waves.
Yachtworker said:
mybrainhurts said:
Zaxxon said:
mybrainhurts said:
Not bizarre at all...
Would you find this in Scun
Sooooooo, if the Billionaire owner is English, they kit their yacht out with an Inglenook Fireplace, hunting pictures and rake beams?
No but, if the yacht appeared thus, it's likely that the owner is English, is it not?Would you find this in Scun
Sooooooo, if the Billionaire owner is English, they kit their yacht out with an Inglenook Fireplace, hunting pictures and rake beams?
Your complaint makes no sense.
The last yacht we built that looked like an English stately home inside, (dead animals and all) was for a Spannish chap.
With regards to the images and video its a bit odd as there appears to be an overboard pumping out a fair bit of water which looks like it comes from a gen set, all the lights are on and she isn't deadship but went over too quickly for the crew to launch their own rescue tender. Should this of happened mid Atlantic then it would have been a catastrophe!
Edited by mybrainhurts on Saturday 18th February 16:21
stevejh said:
There's a video of it going down here;
http://vimeo.com/36961557
Very sad to see something that a lot of people have worked very hard to create (and possibly someone else has worked very hard to afford to buy) disappearing beneath the waves.
Ouch...bloke on the wire took a thumphttp://vimeo.com/36961557
Very sad to see something that a lot of people have worked very hard to create (and possibly someone else has worked very hard to afford to buy) disappearing beneath the waves.
mickrick said:
A skippers worst nightmare! It's always at the back of my mind during a passage, how a 5 euro part could leave us dead in the water, or sink us.
Is there no second line of defence to stop a minor single failure sinking such a vessel?There's a concept in electronics systems called 'single point of failure' - the idea being that the system should be designed so that there isn't such a single point!
mybrainhurts said:
There goes the no claims bonus...
Its only one claim a day. 364 still to go. Who would be an insurer? One claim in 365 days is not bad surely.
On a serious note it must have been touch and go.
Years of sailing made me realise the one vital lesson.
NEVER leave a sinking ship.
It is always safer on board until literally the last minutes. Always!
The sea is no place to be especially when there is a storm.
Glad everyone got off! Well Done the rescuers.
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