Range on super yachts...

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Vytalis

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1,434 posts

163 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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A noob question:

I've been lusting after some of the sunseeker yachts and happened to notice that they all have really low range - the 80ft yacht has only 350nm and even the 40m monster is listed at 1500nm. Surely that limits their capability hugely? I thought a lot of those yachts did the Atlantic run twice a year to catch Caribbean and med seasons? By my reckoning the 40m wouldn't even get halfway.

TimJMS

2,584 posts

250 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Sunseekers are far from being superyachts.

Huntsman

8,028 posts

249 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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The new Sunseeker 155 will do 4500nm, its Sunseekers first very long range boat I think.

Typically Sunseeker are planning boats, as such, they dont carry the fuel for long range.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

282 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Boats that go fast don't usually have long range. It takes too much power to propel them at high speed, and their hulls and engines are design with that in mind, so don't work very well at lower speeds. If you want to travel long distances, you need to minimise the power requirement and that means usually a displacement hull and slower speed. If you want long range and high speed, you need to carry a very large amount of fuel which means there is less internal space for other things.

Vytalis

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1,434 posts

163 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Thanks - so the limit of a £5m sunseeker's ability is to bimble between islands in the med OR the Caribbean but nothing further?

To hell with that, I'm off to the Hallberg Rassey site.

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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And this is what always amused me with those half way house powerboats. They have no range.

I remember being over taken by some thing 120ft long about 400miles from St Lucia we radioed them up and they stated that max speed was normally 25knots. They were doing 9 knots straight across the Atlantic but virtually on max range.


TimJMS

2,584 posts

250 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Transatlantic powerboats are impractical beasts. Google Virgin Atlantic Challenger, Gentry Eagle or Destriero.

Huntsman

8,028 posts

249 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Vytalis said:
Thanks - so the limit of a £5m sunseeker's ability is to bimble between islands in the med OR the Caribbean but nothing further?

To hell with that, I'm off to the Hallberg Rassey site.
Marlow? Flemming? Defever? Trader (still going?)? GB? Or god forbid, Nordhavn.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

244 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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ALawson said:
And this is what always amused me with those half way house powerboats. They have no range.

I remember being over taken by some thing 120ft long about 400miles from St Lucia we radioed them up and they stated that max speed was normally 25knots. They were doing 9 knots straight across the Atlantic but virtually on max range.
9 knots and they overtook you? smile

How long would their crossing have taken?

Yachtworker

1,248 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Vytalis said:
A noob question:

Surely that limits their capability hugely? I thought a lot of those yachts did the Atlantic run twice a year to catch Caribbean and med seasons?
This is what happens:

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/10641...


12.5 tonnes of fuel in a 52 tonne vessel

mickrick

3,700 posts

172 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Looks like Paraiso or Lionwind on the back of the dockwise boat?

Steve_D

13,737 posts

257 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Yachtworker said:
This is what happens:
With the added advantage you can send your 'man' along to do all the below waterline works during the crossing.

Steve

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Deva Link said:
9 knots and they overtook you? smile

How long would their crossing have taken?
From memory from Grande Canaria it's about 2300 miles. 9 knots is 216 miles a day so about 11 days. We took 24 days in 46ft yacht. It's all about keeping the average speed up.

Yachts tend to go a little further south to pick up the trades on a east to west transatlantic.

There was quite a big swell when they passed other wise they said they would have sent some steak over in their launch!

mickrick

3,700 posts

172 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Who needs a superyacht?
I crossed the Atlantic 3 years ago with two mates, we sailed from Lanzarotte to Cape Verde's, which took us 8 days. We used the engine for 5 hours one night when the wind dropped, and we where slopping about.
Spent one night in Sal, one night in Mindelo, then sailed across to Bequia.
Mindelo to Bequia took us 18 days. Not bad for a 10 meter boat, and 5 hours motoring. smile

Yachtworker

1,248 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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mickrick said:
Looks like Paraiso or Lionwind on the back of the dockwise boat?
I know, not sure wich of Feadships finest collaborations with Anglian Windows it is.

Mike Random

466 posts

169 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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It would more likely be Lionwind, l don't think Pariso has moved for a long time, l was the Dive Master on Lionwind for a year in the Pacific, the interior has not had a refit since she was two years old, the inside is like Count Dracula's hearse awful.

Mike

mickrick

3,700 posts

172 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Definately Marmite boats. But I wouldn't have minded being on Paraiso or Eco salary about 15 or 16 years ago! Boy, did those Guys rake it in!
Eco/Katana/Enigma also a Marmite boat, but I like Marmite, and I think she still looks radical, even though she must be 20 years old now. 3.5k range. Untill they fire up that turbine!
Lone ranger had a 30,000 mile range. 250,000 US Gallons. cool

Oh, and Paraiso was still in her berth on Friday afternoon. I wonder if she still does the anual trip to Acapulco?

Edited by mickrick on Monday 5th March 09:15

village idiot

3,158 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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http://dashewoffshore.com/fpb112.asp

job done... 5,000Nm range at 12 knots...

tank slapper

7,949 posts

282 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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The 64 foot version will go even further. About the only motor yacht that appears on my Euromillions list.