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Are airplanes in it for the profit?

Are airplanes in it for the profit?

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jamie128

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1,604 posts

80 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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This is going to sound like a terribly stupid question so forgive me, but i know nothing about what im asking so i am likely way off.

In a typical airplane it carries 200 passengers, now if them 200 passengers pay 250 each for the flights that is 50,000 pounds profit. Now the pilot needs to be paid, the staff on board, all the preparation of the plane and the fuel must cost an absolute fortune because it has to meet certain standards.

Also the plane when fully laden must get less than 1MPG surely.

Do airplanes actually make much money?

sc0tt

13,176 posts

111 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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jamie128 said:
In a typical airplane it carries 200 passengers, now if them 200 passengers pay 250 each for the flights that is 50,000 pounds profit
Revenue. Not Profit.

supertouring

2,065 posts

143 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Typical?

crofty1984

11,654 posts

114 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Yes, they're in it for the profit.

doogz

26,541 posts

97 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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They're not really concerned with "MPG" i believe they usually work in tonnes/hour.

But yes, operators make money. If they didn't, they wouldn't be in business.
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jas xjr

9,345 posts

149 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Do not forget the revenue from carrying cargo

KaraK

12,347 posts

119 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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There is money in it certainly but it is getting more difficult:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17053703


stuttgartmetal

7,556 posts

126 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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No.
They do it for the sts and giggles.


Turbodiesel1690

1,921 posts

80 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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I read a while ago that a one way 747 transatlantic flight generates half a million quid - when you consider that it only takes 8 hours, theres money in them thar hills

Big Fat Fatty

3,298 posts

66 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Aeroplane. Not airplane.

Planes are among the most efficient vehicles we've created, but they measure it against passengers carried/distance traveled/fuel used, which works out to be much more efficient than your average family car.

ETA. Tonnes/hour works better.

jamie128

Original Poster:

1,604 posts

80 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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stuttgartmetal said:
No.
They do it for the sts and giggles.
Dont be so sarcastic, i dont think buses/trains make much money its just a service

ambuletz

3,983 posts

91 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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I suppose he means where does the profit come from considering all the expenses (not to mention renting out the plane).
Especiallly on low-cost flights that are about £30.

olly22n

15,041 posts

116 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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A-E-R-O-P-L-A-N-E.

Aeroplane. There, easy.

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DanDC5

10,971 posts

77 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Given the price of rail and bus fares I'd say they make a decent wedge.

P-Jay

7,661 posts

101 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Yes, the alternative would be they're a huge loss making enterprises set-up for the good of humantiy.

They even give you a basic idea of the breakdown - they mention how much is a fuel surcharge, how much is tax etc on the invoice.

jamie128

Original Poster:

1,604 posts

80 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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ambuletz said:
I suppose he means where does the profit come from considering all the expenses (not to mention renting out the plane).
Especiallly on low-cost flights that are about £30.
Yeh i mean planes cost a fortune, for the price we pay it doesent seem like it could cover everything that needs to be paid for, i mean even staff who drive the buses to the airplanes, little things like this.

onesickpuppy

2,635 posts

67 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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jamie128 said:
Dont be so sarcastic, i dont think buses/trains make much money its just a service
First Group made an operating profit of £310m last year. Not bad for 'just a service'.

zac510

5,546 posts

116 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Don't forget all the tatty perfume they sell too!

Ultuous

1,936 posts

101 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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jamie128 said:
Yeh i mean planes cost a fortune, for the price we pay it doesent seem like it could cover everything that needs to be paid for, i mean even staff who drive the buses to the airplanes, little things like this.
Which is why the budget airlines in particular have moved the game on with their business models and made some of the more established brands struggle to compete (internet booking only to reduce back-office staff, quick turnarounds to avoid having the planes idling on the tarmac, taking unfavourable slots to keep airport charges down, adding to margins by selling luggage as extra/ scratch cards/ food/ gifts/ car hire/ hotels/ insurance etc. etc.)...

stuttgartmetal

7,556 posts

126 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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jamie128 said:
Dont be so sarcastic, i dont think buses/trains make much money its just a service
Really?

Ever visited the planet Earth?