Need things to hang ropes on

Need things to hang ropes on

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Simpo Two

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85,497 posts

266 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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The usual answer is to use lifebelt holders, but these are far bigger than needs be to hang a line on a pulpit rail. Has anyone discovered any smaller hook/J type things that can be fixed neatly to a 1" rail?

danyeates

7,248 posts

223 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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I sell these line tamers: http://www.bartonmarine.com/products-special-cleat...

ETA: Oops, sorry, you asked for rail mounted. Mmm, not sure

jon h

863 posts

285 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Simpo Two

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266 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Hmm, needs to be more of a J shape I think - the clamp part is OK (well white would be nice to match the boat) but then a J about 4" long and 2" deep.

Who fancies launching a new product?!

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

248 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Oh we've come so close to getting you onto nautical terms and you let yourself down once again.

One more time we do not have ropes on board, we have sheets, lines, halyards, rodes and warps.

Rope as a nautical term is indistinct and applies only to product that has not been put to use.

In your case given the lack of masts, mizzens and mains we are dealing with mooring lines and I guess an anchor warp unless you attached a piece of chain between the line and anchor/weight (old fridge?) in which case we will now refer to the whole as a rode.

Both mooring lines and warps should traditionally be flemished on deck, the art of neatly coiling the line on deck making it available when required whilst also avoiding a trip hazard.

Alternatively the skilled crew will if insufficient space exists take the line into a number of coils, managing the twist as he goes, and deftly arrange a number of turns with the loose end around the coil and through the resultant hole to form what shall now be known as a hank, thereupon, utilising the loose end, attach it to a rail by means of a round turn and two half hitches or more simply a clove hitch.

And that my friend is probably why you didn't get the personal invite to accompany her Majesty down the river. biggrin

Simpo Two

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266 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Yebbut you got any J-shape jobbies?



NB: If sheets are ropes (though I wouldn't clew them up to the bunt) what do I put on the bed?

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

248 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Simpo Two said:
Yebbut you got any J-shape jobbies?
Don't need any, I do that deft thingy with the coils and the turns and then throw the bloody lot in the 'rope' locker to get it out of the way. smokin

Riff Raff

5,123 posts

196 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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MOTORVATOR said:
Simpo Two said:
Yebbut you got any J-shape jobbies?
Don't need any, I do that deft thingy with the coils and the turns and then throw the bloody lot in the 'rope' locker to get it out of the way. smokin
Alternatively, coil the line (properly with a twist) drape it over the rail (or lifeline), pull the outboard coils through the inboard coils, pull tight and admire your handiwork.

Like this on the far left:




Edited by Riff Raff on Monday 11th June 19:29

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

248 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Riff Raff said:
Alternatively, coil the line (properly with a twist) drape it over the rail (or lifeline), pull the outboard coils through the inboard coils, pull tight and admire your handiwork.

Like this on the far left:
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Nah, I always coil my lines (properly with a twist) three round turns and back through the hole. Years of safety work and never ended up with a birdy yet when tossing them back out.

In latter years one has a boat with dedicated rope locker rather than tow bollards and now just yearns for a fit young blonde crew member to do the bending down to said locker. wink

Anyway Simpo. White you say to match the boat, 4" you mention by 2" fitted to your rail?

I give you 3 7/8" by 2" in white on tacky aluminium to match the rest of the fittings. biggrin

http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1756-rail-mount-ring...

Matched with a few of these to solve your fender issue.

http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1747-rail-mount-loop...

Simpo Two

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85,497 posts

266 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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MOTORVATOR said:
Anyway Simpo. White you say to match the boat, 4" you mention by 2" fitted to your rail?

I give you 3 7/8" by 2" in white on tacky aluminium to match the rest of the fittings. biggrin

http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1756-rail-mount-ring...
The dimensions are the wrong way round but it's an interesting option, and it looks like it can be fixed at an angle too. Will have a think.

I've got already got cam-cleats for the fenders, but the ones in your link look better - the rope can't flip out of the top - so I will investigate....

TTwiggy

11,546 posts

205 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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MOTORVATOR said:
Oh we've come so close to getting you onto nautical terms and you let yourself down once again.

One more time we do not have ropes on board, we have sheets, lines, halyards, rodes and warps.

Rope as a nautical term is indistinct and applies only to product that has not been put to use.

In your case given the lack of masts, mizzens and mains we are dealing with mooring lines and I guess an anchor warp unless you attached a piece of chain between the line and anchor/weight (old fridge?) in which case we will now refer to the whole as a rode.

Both mooring lines and warps should traditionally be flemished on deck, the art of neatly coiling the line on deck making it available when required whilst also avoiding a trip hazard.

Alternatively the skilled crew will if insufficient space exists take the line into a number of coils, managing the twist as he goes, and deftly arrange a number of turns with the loose end around the coil and through the resultant hole to form what shall now be known as a hank, thereupon, utilising the loose end, attach it to a rail by means of a round turn and two half hitches or more simply a clove hitch.

And that my friend is probably why you didn't get the personal invite to accompany her Majesty down the river. biggrin
I was always told that there's only one rope on a ship - the one that holds the clanger on the ship's bell.

AlexiusG55

655 posts

157 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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TTwiggy said:
I was always told that there's only one rope on a ship - the one that holds the clanger on the ship's bell.
Not quite- if it's a sailing vessel the sails may also have boltropes.

size13

2,022 posts

258 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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AlexiusG55 said:
Not quite- if it's a sailing vessel the sails may also have boltropes.
But they're not ropes wink They're boltropes!

TTwiggy

11,546 posts

205 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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size13 said:
AlexiusG55 said:
Not quite- if it's a sailing vessel the sails may also have boltropes.
But they're not ropes wink They're boltropes!
Indeed - mine is a sailing vessel, and the sails have bolt ropes. But those would be bolt ropes wink

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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What you need be Belaying Pins:


Simpo Two

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266 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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I have been counting up the number of ropes I have.

Two at the front, two in the middle, two at the back, eight for the fenders, one on the Seasearcher magnet, plus one loop of string to hold the hatch fully open so I don't bash my head on it! 15.5 in all smile

TTwiggy

11,546 posts

205 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Riff Raff said:
Alternatively, coil the line (properly with a twist) drape it over the rail (or lifeline), pull the outboard coils through the inboard coils, pull tight and admire your handiwork.

Like this on the far left:




Edited by Riff Raff on Monday 11th June 19:29
Is she's yours? Lovely! Beneteau?

Riff Raff

5,123 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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TTwiggy said:
Riff Raff said:
Alternatively, coil the line (properly with a twist) drape it over the rail (or lifeline), pull the outboard coils through the inboard coils, pull tight and admire your handiwork.

Like this on the far left:




Edited by Riff Raff on Monday 11th June 19:29
Is she's yours? Lovely! Beneteau?
She used to be, a long time ago. She's a Dehler 35.

The reason there is so much string near the helm is that she was set up for solo sailing. Genoa/main sheets, main halyard and Ist and 2nd reefs, genoa furling and the backstay all led back to jammers and the two electric primaries either side of the wheel. Quite quick, because she had a very big rig. The asymmetric was huge. We got 15 knots out of her once or twice surfing off waves, which isn't bad for a heavy cruising boat.

I'd have kept her, but she was no good for racing.

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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TTwiggy said:
I was always told that there's only one rope on a ship - the one that holds the clanger on the ship's bell.
Gawd's sake, Clappers Chap Clappers!

And they are swung by a lanyard on my vessel to denote first and last dog watch or more correctly the transfer from Gin to Rum.

This is almost as bad as when Simpo came on board for lunch and had the nose off the stilton right in front of Bacardi's eyes. furious

Simpo Two

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266 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Nothing gets between me and a nose of Stilton, especially when the sea bass is 'off' wink

However, due apologies for failing to observe the Seaman's Cheese Code and Celebratory Dance prior to the sacrifice. Hey nonny no, jingle jingle skip tra la before we all roll off the back like human depth charges eh? party