HMS Queen Elizabeth

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donutsina911

1,049 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd February 2016
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Trevatanus said:
when do we think that we will see this in port "down south" then?
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2016/february/18/160218-hms-queen-elizabeth-show

'Next year' woohoo

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Thread resurrection.

Anyone else seen this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_HgiTmLsMI

...it's a bit upbeat and positive, but it is a ForcesTV piece, so it ought to be. A few good views of the 'under the skin' fixtures and fittings, and some explanation of just how they are going to manage with such a small (relatively speaking) crew.

Let's hope that all the magazine automation machinery works properly from the outset, or those 600 or so crew members will be awful busy carrying high tech munitions up and down ladders!

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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yellowjack said:
Let's hope that all the magazine automation machinery works properly from the outset, or those 600 or so crew members will be awful busy carrying high tech munitions up and down ladders!
Automation is fine until it goes wrong, which it is apt to do very quickly if the ship suffers damage from an attack. There is a reason navy ships have large crews - many of them are spares

Catweazle

1,159 posts

142 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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All stop.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Portsmouth evacuations prompted by WW2 bomb find - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-379...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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yellowjack said:
Thread resurrection.

Anyone else seen this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_HgiTmLsMI

...it's a bit upbeat and positive, but it is a ForcesTV piece, so it ought to be. A few good views of the 'under the skin' fixtures and fittings, and some explanation of just how they are going to manage with such a small (relatively speaking) crew.

Let's hope that all the magazine automation machinery works properly from the outset, or those 600 or so crew members will be awful busy carrying high tech munitions up and down ladders!
Wow, 650 crew vs 2500 on the slightly larger USN carriers

MBBlat

1,626 posts

149 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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El stovey said:
Wow, 650 crew vs 2500 on the slightly larger USN carriers
The 600 does not include the airwing, which will be a another 600 or so, plus the USN always overman everything compared to the RN.
The QEC ships crew is similar in size to the Invincible's, which were a 1/3 of the size.

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Catweazle said:
All stop.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Portsmouth evacuations prompted by WW2 bomb find - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-379...
That's the third found so far during the current dredging of the area. Definitely won't be the last! Gives the local paper something to write about.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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less people less weight = go faster any self respecting PHer should know that

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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citizensm1th said:
less people less weight = go faster any self respecting PHer should know that
The RN has taken out the rear seats and encourages the sailors to do some cadence clutching to gets the knots on.

316Mining

20,911 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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MBBlat said:
El stovey said:
Wow, 650 crew vs 2500 on the slightly larger USN carriers
The 600 does not include the airwing, which will be a another 600 or so, plus the USN always overman everything compared to the RN.
The QEC ships crew is similar in size to the Invincible's, which were a 1/3 of the size.
It's highly automated. All the ordinance is moved around on a computerised automated system.

Thing is, these systems tend to fall apart at the merest touch when desperately needed.....

And the RN is desperately short of serving personnel at the moment. No one wants to be a sailor any more.

Trevatanus

11,123 posts

150 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Anyone know if there is a date for her maiden trip to Portsmouth yet?

wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I think it's a bit early for precise dates. Has the infrastructure being built at Pompey finished? I assume the WW2 bomb found today was discovered by dredging for the QEC.

I'm wondering if she'll have sets of contractors trials like other warships. Put her to sea, wind her up, find out what's broken/doesn't work and bring her back to the yard for fettling.

I'm asking partly on behalf of my 87 year old friend Gordon. He was part of the team that built Lusty and ARKR as well as the carrier Albion back in the 1940s when he was an apprentice.

He so wishes he was young enough to be part of the QE and PoW build.

hidetheelephants

24,357 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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wildcat45 said:
I think it's a bit early for precise dates. Has the infrastructure being built at Pompey finished? I assume the WW2 bomb found today was discovered by dredging for the QEC.
The news did say it was dredging for the new facility that unearthed the bomb so will be for the flattops.

donutsina911

1,049 posts

184 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Previous 1SL went public with 29 May - how realistic this is, who knows. I suspect they'll time it for a weekend/bank holiday/school hols to encourage local attendees for her arrival. She's already been slotted in to the US Carrier Strike deployment model cycle, so things can't slip too much.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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donutsina911 said:
Previous 1SL went public with 29 May - how realistic this is, who knows. I suspect they'll time it for a weekend/bank holiday/school hols to encourage local attendees for her arrival. She's already been slotted in to the US Carrier Strike deployment model cycle, so things can't slip too much.
Was the 29th May, this date has since slipped with no new date identified, I know the rough timescales but probably shouldn't disclose it yet as it's not public, expect her to be in Pompey by the end of summer though.

Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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316Mining said:
It's highly automated. All the ordinance is moved around on a computerised automated system.

Thing is, these systems tend to fall apart at the merest touch when desperately needed.....
Which would be a fair shout if it was cutting edge technologies, but you see this sort of thing in car factories around the world now so the bugs are pretty well ironed out.

And it'll run on Windows XP of course wink

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Evanivitch said:
316Mining said:
It's highly automated. All the ordinance is moved around on a computerised automated system.

Thing is, these systems tend to fall apart at the merest touch when desperately needed.....
Which would be a fair shout if it was cutting edge technologies, but you see this sort of thing in car factories around the world now so the bugs are pretty well ironed out.

And it'll run on Windows XP of course wink
Car factories rarely go to war in stormy seas though. Sure it will be fine. It's not like both steam catapults will fail at the same time either. ......

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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AshVX220 said:
donutsina911 said:
Previous 1SL went public with 29 May - how realistic this is, who knows. I suspect they'll time it for a weekend/bank holiday/school hols to encourage local attendees for her arrival. She's already been slotted in to the US Carrier Strike deployment model cycle, so things can't slip too much.
Was the 29th May, this date has since slipped with no new date identified, I know the rough timescales but probably shouldn't disclose it yet as it's not public, expect her to be in Pompey by the end of summer though.
Are you sure about that, not heard or seen a dicky about any date bar speculation...out of interest is that the end of metrological summer or BST....either way I'll have a gander when it comes up the harbour, should be a brilliant sight.

Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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TTmonkey said:
Evanivitch said:
316Mining said:
It's highly automated. All the ordinance is moved around on a computerised automated system.

Thing is, these systems tend to fall apart at the merest touch when desperately needed.....
Which would be a fair shout if it was cutting edge technologies, but you see this sort of thing in car factories around the world now so the bugs are pretty well ironed out.

And it'll run on Windows XP of course wink
Car factories rarely go to war in stormy seas though. Sure it will be fine. It's not like both steam catapults will fail at the same time either. ......
What steam catapults?

Stormy seas aren't really problem provided you're protected from the corrosion. Electrical/electronics are far more vulnerable to high vibration environments like tracked vehicles or prop aircraft.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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HarryW said:
Are you sure about that, not heard or seen a dicky about any date bar speculation...out of interest is that the end of metrological summer or BST....either way I'll have a gander when it comes up the harbour, should be a brilliant sight.
Not entirely sure no, but just from what I've heard from guys on the job (I used to be on the job myself, gutted about the delay as I was hoping to be in the UK when she first came in).