HMS Queen Elizabeth

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Z06George

2,519 posts

189 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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hehe

hidetheelephants

24,284 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Sarkmeister said:
Yep, thats pretty much right. However, I wouldnt expect her to leave Rosyth until late 2017 at the earliest.
Given the great noise made about modular construction shortening the time required for fitting out, why so long? I'd have thought propulsion trials would be on the cards well before that, particularly given their novelty and the need for extended fiddling.

dome

687 posts

257 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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I'm going to head over tomorrow for the flypast, don't think I've seen the Sea Vixen fly so that'll be good along with the Red Arrows, even if the F35 is still fooked and stuck in the USA.

ninja-lewis

4,240 posts

190 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
Sarkmeister said:
Yep, thats pretty much right. However, I wouldnt expect her to leave Rosyth until late 2017 at the earliest.
Given the great noise made about modular construction shortening the time required for fitting out, why so long? I'd have thought propulsion trials would be on the cards well before that, particularly given their novelty and the need for extended fiddling.
Depends what Sarkmeister meant by leaving Rosyth - not sure if he meant for the first time or when she moves home to Portsmouth.

She's due to go to sea for Builder's Trials in October 2016 with a possible visit to Portsmouth late 2016/early 2017. Commissioning takes place in 2017, sea trials with F-35B in 2018 and full operational service in 2020.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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BBC reporter trying to diss the new aircraft carrier repeatedly said the aircraft carrier had no 'warships' to carry.
Even said HMS Illustrious, parked alongside, no longer carried 'warships'.


What a tard.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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TTmonkey said:
BBC reporter trying to diss the new aircraft carrier repeatedly said the aircraft carrier had no 'warships' to carry.
Even said HMS Illustrious, parked alongside, no longer carried 'warships'.


What a tard.
Yeah, heard that, but he is not the first and will not be the last to mess up. I would like to see many Joe public do better in front of the camera, some do, many do not.

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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TTmonkey said:
BBC reporter trying to diss the new aircraft carrier repeatedly said the aircraft carrier had no 'warships' to carry.
Even said HMS Illustrious, parked alongside, no longer carried 'warships'.


What a tard.
I would expect nothing less from inept BBC journo's (or any journo for that matter) when it comes to 'defense' matters.

Clueless is being generous to them.

Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

155 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Do they start to flood the dry dock today then?

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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aeropilot said:
I would expect nothing less from inept BBC journo's (or any journo for that matter) when it comes to 'defense' matters.

Clueless is being generous to them.
Sadly, very, very true.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

190 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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ninja-lewis said:
Someone better tell Rolls Royce before the Russians have a look at their press image gallery!

Gulzar built the props? eek

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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An expensive 'aircraft carrier'.

Built to carry one type of 'aircraft' that doesn't need catapults to launch them which cost more than twice as much as they should with half the amount of engines they need.

Meanwhile back to the future when we had at least one 'proper' one.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv8prm4mGEQ

mrloudly

2,815 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
An expensive 'aircraft carrier'.

Built to carry one type of 'aircraft' that doesn't need catapults to launch them which cost more than twice as much as they should with half the amount of engines they need.

Meanwhile back to the future when we had at least one 'proper' one.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv8prm4mGEQ
Should read "Built to carry one type of "obsolete" aircraft"...

As has already been shown, stealth pilotless drones are the future in weapons platforms deployed from aircraft carriers.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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jmorgan said:
TTmonkey said:
BBC reporter trying to diss the new aircraft carrier repeatedly said the aircraft carrier had no 'warships' to carry.
Even said HMS Illustrious, parked alongside, no longer carried 'warships'.


What a tard.
Yeah, heard that, but he is not the first and will not be the last to mess up. I would like to see many Joe public do better in front of the camera, some do, many do not.
Um, it's his job. Of he can't do it, he shouldn't.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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mrloudly said:
Should read "Built to carry one type of "obsolete" aircraft"...

As has already been shown, stealth pilotless drones are the future in weapons platforms deployed from aircraft carriers.
Their assurance that this vessel will rule the waves for the next 50 years is laughable.

The rate of change for technology in warfare will make this thing obsolete, unusable and vulnerable within 20 years in my opinion. Stealth technology, drone attack, even cyber vulnerability will mean it won't ever be used as loss of such a capital asset would be unthinkable.

Pretty pointless in my view.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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TTmonkey said:
Um, it's his job. Of he can't do it, he shouldn't.
You will be hard pushed to find people to report on particular stories then. Reporters are more a jack of all trades, some are more knowledgable than others in some fields but they cannot keep them all in a cupboard and let them out for their particular area. They will have the science report or the business reporter but many cover all sorts of stories.

And people make mistakes in front of the camera, its life, get used to it. People get so wound up over this, maybe they have taken the wrong calling in life and need to do the reporters job....... seen many an expert called to comment fall at the first hurdle but on the flip side, seen a good few that are good at it.

wink

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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TTmonkey said:
Their assurance that this vessel will rule the waves for the next 50 years is laughable.

The rate of change for technology in warfare will make this thing obsolete, unusable and vulnerable within 20 years in my opinion. Stealth technology, drone attack, even cyber vulnerability will mean it won't ever be used as loss of such a capital asset would be unthinkable.

Pretty pointless in my view.
Nobody is saying it will 'rule the waves' for the next 50 years. Just that it is expected to stay in service that long.

Look at Hermes. Laid down during WW2, launched in 1953, still in service with the Indian navy for a few years yet. There's been some pretty big changes in technology in that period.

T66ORA

3,474 posts

257 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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aeropilot said:
I would expect nothing less from inept BBC journo's (or any journo for that matter) when it comes to 'defense' matters.

Clueless is being generous to them.
Looks like the "top brass" took issue with the good old Politicly correct Beeb for calling it a Boat rolleyes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/109...

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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T66ORA said:
aeropilot said:
I would expect nothing less from inept BBC journo's (or any journo for that matter) when it comes to 'defense' matters.

Clueless is being generous to them.
Looks like the "top brass" took issue with the good old Politicly correct Beeb for calling it a Boat rolleyes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/109...
The RN used have lots of boats back in the day, with Captians launches and such like used to get out to the anchored ships (not sure if they still have any of those, I guess they must have a few left) and of course all the RN Submarines are referred to as 'boats' rather than ships.

-crookedtail-

1,562 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Probably been answered many times before but why to the RN insist on using the ski ramp rather than the catapult system that everyone else refers. Doesn't that limit the type of aircraft that can use it, so for example the french couldn't fly their planes from it?

Seems a bit silly from a simpleton like me!!