HMS Queen Elizabeth

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aeropilot

34,604 posts

227 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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Situation as of late yesterday afternoon USA time.

http://breakingdefense.com/2014/07/no-decisions-ye...

I can't see how they can make Farnborough now as they need to do the validation display for Farnborough this week, so unless that 2 day maintainence turn-a-round is waived they'll get here too late, even if they leave today US time.
They'd still be pushing it for RIAT display practice on Friday as well as a Farnborough validation display same day?

I suspect if a go decision hasn't come by end of today US time, it won't be happening.

I don't know why (I can guess though rolleyes) they didn't sort out a proper fly-on, sail-over, fly-off exercise via a US carrier/LHD given that's the whole point of buying this a/c.

At least they would have been 'here' despite the flight embargo being given while en-route.


onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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Al Murphy said:
hidetheelephants said:
Perhaps given CMD's lack of craven fawning recently the UK has found its way onto the ITAR naughty list and been banned from having such wondrous hardware. hehe
It shouldn't be funny, but you definitely get a hehe for that one.

Mrtee, your friend is sort of right, but as aeropilot says they are currently having a few issues departing the USA.

Al
10/10 for understatement!

smile

hidetheelephants

24,366 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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onyx39 said:
Al Murphy said:
hidetheelephants said:
Perhaps given CMD's lack of craven fawning recently the UK has found its way onto the ITAR naughty list and been banned from having such wondrous hardware. hehe
It shouldn't be funny, but you definitely get a hehe for that one.

Mrtee, your friend is sort of right, but as aeropilot says they are currently having a few issues departing the USA.

Al
10/10 for understatement!

smile
I take it they are failing to proceed, despite having Rolls Royce wafty fan things.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
onyx39 said:
Al Murphy said:
hidetheelephants said:
Perhaps given CMD's lack of craven fawning recently the UK has found its way onto the ITAR naughty list and been banned from having such wondrous hardware. hehe
It shouldn't be funny, but you definitely get a hehe for that one.

Mrtee, your friend is sort of right, but as aeropilot says they are currently having a few issues departing the USA.

Al
10/10 for understatement!

smile
I take it they are failing to proceed, despite having Rolls Royce wafty fan things.
If they've gone for the R-R 'power-by-the-hour' contract, perhaps they've run out of hours biggrin

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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y2blade said:
If we get no planes for it, it could always be used to carry Illustrious around.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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FourWheelDrift said:
y2blade said:
If we get no planes for it, it could always be used to carry Illustrious around.
"Hop on little'un" biggrin

williamp

19,260 posts

273 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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Great camouflage. I assume the deck will change to a nicer blue when in cleaner waters??

TTwiggy

11,538 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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All that deck space does look like overkill for VTOL (yes, I appreciate it allows for quicker turnaround and more capacity).

aeropilot

34,604 posts

227 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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TTwiggy said:
All that deck space does look like overkill for VTOL (yes, I appreciate it allows for quicker turnaround and more capacity).
VTOL isn't what it's been designed for - as it's not envisaged to be used operationally.

Op usage is intended to be STORVL, which is Short Take Off (via ski ramp) Rolling Vertical Landing.


FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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williamp said:
Great camouflage. I assume the deck will change to a nicer blue when in cleaner waters??
Yes, it's currently sporting the River Mersey Summer pattern.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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rhinochopig said:
hidetheelephants said:
I take it they are failing to proceed, despite having Rolls Royce wafty fan things.
If they've gone for the R-R 'power-by-the-hour' contract, perhaps they've run out of hours biggrin
According to this part of the problem is that they didn't go with R-R (as an option).

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/axing-f-35s-alter...

hidetheelephants

24,366 posts

193 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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Munter said:
rhinochopig said:
hidetheelephants said:
I take it they are failing to proceed, despite having Rolls Royce wafty fan things.
If they've gone for the R-R 'power-by-the-hour' contract, perhaps they've run out of hours biggrin
According to this part of the problem is that they didn't go with R-R (as an option).

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/axing-f-35s-alter...
I thought the vertical lift fan was designed by RR?

aeropilot

34,604 posts

227 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
Munter said:
rhinochopig said:
hidetheelephants said:
I take it they are failing to proceed, despite having Rolls Royce wafty fan things.
If they've gone for the R-R 'power-by-the-hour' contract, perhaps they've run out of hours biggrin
According to this part of the problem is that they didn't go with R-R (as an option).

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/axing-f-35s-alter...
I thought the vertical lift fan was designed by RR?
It is.



onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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Has this been posted already?


Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

239 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Only six posts before yours, and then quoted twice after that.

aeropilot

34,604 posts

227 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Dr JonboyG said:
Only six posts before yours, and then quoted twice after that.
"Should have gone to......."

hehe

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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cursecursecursecursecurse
and I went looking for it!

Will take heed of the specsavers advise!

Steve vRS

4,845 posts

241 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Seeing that view is the first time I've realised it hasn't got an angled deck. When the plan was for catapults and arrestors did it have an angled deck?

Steve

FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Steve vRS said:
Seeing that view is the first time I've realised it hasn't got an angled deck. When the plan was for catapults and arrestors did it have an angled deck?

Steve
It does have an angled deck, if they paint it on.



Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 10th July 14:21