Another Next Gen Chinese Fighter?
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This picture was taken a few days ago showing an unidentified aircraft being transported by truck on it's way to Tianjin.
The interesting fact is, if it is just a mockup for display, then why the heavy security?
Even the J-10 does not receive such an escort when it is being transported for overhaul.
The interesting fact is, if it is just a mockup for display, then why the heavy security?
Even the J-10 does not receive such an escort when it is being transported for overhaul.
doogz said:
davepoth said:
So that is actually the F-35, isn't it? It even has the little door in the top for the lift fan. It's a good job that according to the DoD all of that data they stole about the F-35 wasn't of any use...
Well they weren't going to admit that China had stolen all the goof stuff, were they?davepoth said:
doogz said:
davepoth said:
So that is actually the F-35, isn't it? It even has the little door in the top for the lift fan. It's a good job that according to the DoD all of that data they stole about the F-35 wasn't of any use...
Well they weren't going to admit that China had stolen all the goof stuff, were they?
There are quite a few similarities to the F-35 in that model.
Hopefully the saving grace is that the Chinese don't know the material specs for the materials/coatings/paint.
It suggests to me that this will be China's next light attack/strike aircraft.
That means that they have a new fighter aircraft (J-10 rumoured to be heavily based on the Lavi), a new multi-role aircraft (J-11B copy of the Su-27) and a new air-superiority aircraft (J-20 seemingly original with biases to various aircraft).
I see them needing a new heavy strike fighter along the lines of the F-15E or the Fullback, and that should see them sorted for a generation in terms of aircraft design.
You'll also note the UAV on the poster in the background of the picture I added.....not dissimilar to the Herti....
Hopefully the saving grace is that the Chinese don't know the material specs for the materials/coatings/paint.
It suggests to me that this will be China's next light attack/strike aircraft.
That means that they have a new fighter aircraft (J-10 rumoured to be heavily based on the Lavi), a new multi-role aircraft (J-11B copy of the Su-27) and a new air-superiority aircraft (J-20 seemingly original with biases to various aircraft).
I see them needing a new heavy strike fighter along the lines of the F-15E or the Fullback, and that should see them sorted for a generation in terms of aircraft design.
You'll also note the UAV on the poster in the background of the picture I added.....not dissimilar to the Herti....
coanda said:
I see them needing a new heavy strike fighter along the lines of the F-15E or the Fullback, and that should see them sorted for a generation in terms of aircraft design.
That would be the JH-7B then.The upgraded and "stealthed" successor to the current JH-7A fighter bomber
davepoth said:
coanda said:
To add......
So that is actually the F-35, isn't it? It even has the little door in the top for the lift fan. It's a good job that according to the DoD all of that data they stole about the F-35 wasn't of any use...
A drawing/overlay
This was a post on CD two weeks ago. It was ridiculed at the time. Now people are not so sure.
"2 WS-13, 8300 x 2, internal bomb bay, 4 PL-15, dsi, 17m length, MTOW 25 ton, max fuel load(?) 7 ton, first flight in August, first prototype finished, going to test flight center."
Another bit of information quoted from another forum...
"If huitong's information is right regarding the engines of the F60 being the upgraded WS-13B that has 6000kgf dry and 9500kgf afterburner, the F60 has good change to feature supercruise then. Converting the kgf to lbf gives us 13,227lbf dry and 20943lbf wet thrust, which are pretty much the performance values quoted for the EJ200 engine used on the Eurofighter, which features Mach 1.1-1.5 supercruise."
This was a post on CD two weeks ago. It was ridiculed at the time. Now people are not so sure.
"2 WS-13, 8300 x 2, internal bomb bay, 4 PL-15, dsi, 17m length, MTOW 25 ton, max fuel load(?) 7 ton, first flight in August, first prototype finished, going to test flight center."
Another bit of information quoted from another forum...
"If huitong's information is right regarding the engines of the F60 being the upgraded WS-13B that has 6000kgf dry and 9500kgf afterburner, the F60 has good change to feature supercruise then. Converting the kgf to lbf gives us 13,227lbf dry and 20943lbf wet thrust, which are pretty much the performance values quoted for the EJ200 engine used on the Eurofighter, which features Mach 1.1-1.5 supercruise."
Edited by jbi on Friday 22 June 22:20
Mave said:
davepoth said:
coanda said:
To add......
So that is actually the F-35, isn't it? It even has the little door in the top for the lift fan. It's a good job that according to the DoD all of that data they stole about the F-35 wasn't of any use...jbi said:
It's not the design of the engines... it's the supply chain.
I believe they were having problems with quality of parts not being of a consistent nature and meaning the engines could not meet their target service life.
These problems have supposedly been addressed.
Since china just reverse engineer things and then slap a funny looking name on them, I'm sure the design is fine. It's guessing the materials that have been used by the prototype item that is difficult. I believe they were having problems with quality of parts not being of a consistent nature and meaning the engines could not meet their target service life.
These problems have supposedly been addressed.
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