VC10 WOW!!!

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DuraAce

4,240 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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mrloudly said:
That must be nearly the lot surely?
Just six left now sadly.

TurboSam

58 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Great picture, but really sad to see at the same time. Saw XV106 at Biggin 2010 and Fairford this year, what a noise she makes!!

I must really get to Brize before they are finally retired.

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Is surviving K4 ZD241 'N' a Super VC-10? And thus the only flying Super left.

Is that going to be preserved, since the only other Super is at Duxford

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Glosphil said:
Apache said:
of all the airliners I've flown in, the VC10 was my fave.....even if you did sit back to front
Wasn't rearward facing seating only in RAF versions? Same as all RAF passenger planes? Certainly the RAF VC10, Hasting and Yorks in which I flew.
I think BA tridents had some rear facing 'club seating' arrangement. I certainly was on BA flights with that arrangements and I don't think it was a VC 10.

Apache

39,731 posts

283 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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el stovey said:
Glosphil said:
Apache said:
of all the airliners I've flown in, the VC10 was my fave.....even if you did sit back to front
Wasn't rearward facing seating only in RAF versions? Same as all RAF passenger planes? Certainly the RAF VC10, Hasting and Yorks in which I flew.
I think BA tridents had some rear facing 'club seating' arrangement. I certainly was on BA flights with that arrangements and I don't think it was a VC 10.
Interesting, I can vouch for RAF Tridents having conventional seating though

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Apache said:
Interesting, I can vouch for RAF Tridents having conventional seating though
The BEA then BA tridents had a mix of rear facing and forward facing seats.



I think it was quite unique.

Nuclearsquash

1,329 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Aren't rear facing seats supposed to be more survivable in the event of a crash? I could well be mis-remembering something, but it does kind of make sense.

Simpo Two

85,147 posts

264 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Probably (think rear-facing child seat) but take-off woud feel rather funny and some people get freaked out by going backwards.

Sifly

570 posts

177 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Nuclearsquash said:
Aren't rear facing seats supposed to be more survivable in the event of a crash? I could well be mis-remembering something, but it does kind of make sense.
Yes, they are safer. However, rear facing seats are more likely to break away from the floor in the event of a crash due to weight distribution, and so would need to be much stronger (and heavier) to meet todays stringent safety regulations. Extra weight, bulk and expense is exactly what airlines don't want. Plus, most passengers are happier looking at where they are going as apposed to where they have been!

There are a few exceptions, the Dash 8-300 has a rear facing passenger seat against the front bulkhead to allow for a forward right emergency escape door.

Edited by Sifly on Thursday 8th November 12:07

Eric Mc

121,764 posts

264 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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el stovey said:
The BEA then BA tridents had a mix of rear facing and forward facing seats.



I think it was quite unique.
I have flown on a Braniff Airways 727 and a Dan Air BAC 1-11 500 both of which had some rearward facing seats.

PAUL500

2,627 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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My dad worked on them at St Athan and there was talk of preserving the example that still holds the fastest subsonic crossing of the Atlantic when in civvy guise. Not sure if its happening though as he has since retired like many other of the guys that worked there.

c7xlg

862 posts

231 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Lots of ba aircraft with 50% rear facing seats in club now...

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

247 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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One flew over my parents house on approach to EMA a couple of weeks ago.

JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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A couple of my ground school instructors from back in the day were VC10 flight engineers. One claimed to have been part of a crew which rolled one.

Scotty2

1,265 posts

265 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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At Duxford, I was told by the guide that their VC-10 was the actual record holding plane. It was a great display of 60s/70s passenger aircraft and we got to see inside them all. Trident, VC-10 Britania
All seemed more roomey...

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Scotty2 said:
At Duxford, I was told by the guide that their VC-10 was the actual record holding plane.
Is this record actually a fact? You think it would be well published but what was the record and when did it happen? Where was the flight from and to and was it a flight time (T/O to Landing) or block time (chocks to chocks) ? I can't find any reference to these details anywhere.

The VC 10 was fast but I'm surprised a crossing with huge tailwinds in an other type on a day with minimal delays, since back then hasn't been faster.

marksx

5,052 posts

189 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Such a fine looking machine.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Apache said:
Interesting, I can vouch for RAF Tridents having conventional seating though
RAF Tridents? Not Tristars?

Apache

39,731 posts

283 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Dr Jekyll said:
Apache said:
Interesting, I can vouch for RAF Tridents having conventional seating though
RAF Tridents? Not Tristars?
oops