Potentially controversial - Is the Vulcan REALLY that noisy?

Potentially controversial - Is the Vulcan REALLY that noisy?

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NM62

952 posts

150 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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williamp said:
don't forget at Bruntingthorpe a few times every year you can see fast taxi runs (ie almost take off) from a lightning, buccaneer, victor and others
That should be available on the NHS as a prescription for all the 'old' spotters to get their noise fix.

Kitchski

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6,515 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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williamp said:
don't forget at Bruntingthorpe a few times every year you can see fast taxi runs (ie almost take off) from a lightning, buccaneer, victor and others
Loudest I've ever heard at Brunters was the Nimrod in 2011. Lightning's in with a special mention as is the Victor, which shotblasted us the first year we went.

Buccaneers are disappointingly quiet though.

RicksAlfas

13,387 posts

244 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Lightning Diamond Nine at Binbrook was loud.
SR-71 fast and low pass at Mildenhall was remembered more for the blast of hot air that hit the crowd line about 10 seconds after it had gone by.
Concorde was really loud wasn't it?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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As an air cadet at summer camp at Brize Norton late 70's, the VC10 seemed louder than Concord. The latter was there crew training or something.

slybynight

391 posts

121 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Funny how the OP is almost apologetic about the Vulcan not being as noisy as some people big it up to be. As opposed to the official old school message re (seemingly, here, louder) Concorde noise...
"What? practically silent. Can't understand what all the protesting is about"

Edited by slybynight on Tuesday 13th October 15:01

LittleEnus

3,224 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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DamienB said:
1. Turn volume on PC to absolute maximum
2. Warn neighbours
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djd1pPQZ_LE
Wowsers!! Thanks for that!

surveyor

17,811 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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We live about 5 miles from the airport and can hear the Vulcan take off - which is not the case for more run of the mill aircraft....

NM62

952 posts

150 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
Lightning Diamond Nine at Binbrook was loud.
SR-71 fast and low pass at Mildenhall was remembered more for the blast of hot air that hit the crowd line about 10 seconds after it had gone by.
Concorde was really loud wasn't it?
We must have attended a lot of the same shows back then!

NM62

952 posts

150 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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surveyor said:
We live about 5 miles from the airport and can hear the Vulcan take off - which is not the case for more run of the mill aircraft....
I was in the RAF Hospital at Nocton Hall and could here the comings and goings at Waddington - not quite 5 miles but helped me get better!

Classic_Tim

94 posts

284 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Depends on how you define noise.

When it was displaying at the Silverstone GP one year in the late 80's it turned above our house and there was plenty of noise from all the windows rattling and cups and glasses rattling in the kitchen cupboards. I thought the house was coming down.

Tim

hammo19

4,971 posts

196 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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jmorgan said:
As an air cadet at summer camp at Brize Norton late 70's, the VC10 seemed louder than Concord. The latter was there crew training or something.
I was lucky enough to do 4 hours circuits and bumps in a VC10 at Brize when I was in the Air Cadets......don't remember it being that noisy.

I remember the BAC One-Eleven being both noisy and dirty on take off until they fitted those "hush" units.

rupert the dog

1,433 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Mildenhall in the good old days:

Vulcan, a unique sound, unmistakable
SR71 - not only the sound, the whole "presence" of the aircraft
B1 -loud! and impressive
F4 - one did a "surprise" pass at about 60ft out of nowhere, the noise as it passed was incredible! 100,000 people ducked in unison!

Benni

3,512 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Slightly Off Topic :

When USAF were stationed at Frankfurt Air Base,C5A Galaxy was the big daddy of noise.

Their takeoff route often went straight over the part of the town where I worked,

and sounds of a busy 4 wide mainstreet were simply drowned by that deep drooooooooooooone.

Sounded like a "Big Block" engine, still miss that.

Were the engines just bigger than all the others, were they ever put in another plane ?

NM62

952 posts

150 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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rupert the dog said:
Mildenhall in the good old days:

Vulcan, a unique sound, unmistakable
SR71 - not only the sound, the whole "presence" of the aircraft
B1 -loud! and impressive
F4 - one did a "surprise" pass at about 60ft out of nowhere, the noise as it passed was incredible! 100,000 people ducked in unison!
Forgot the B1 - I remember the F4 but the worst / best surprise was the Canadian display team in their F104's who came from behind ( from the direction of Lakenheath ) at low level - 5 or 6 at pace - beautiful - the Starfighter had a distinctive 'howl' similar to, but not as loud as the Vulcan.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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hammo19 said:
I was lucky enough to do 4 hours circuits and bumps in a VC10 at Brize when I was in the Air Cadets......don't remember it being that noisy.

I remember the BAC One-Eleven being both noisy and dirty on take off until they fitted those "hush" units.
If you thought the 1-11 was noisy, the Trident was even worse - as it had three Speys compared to the 1-11s two. Other civil aircraft with Speys were the Fokker F-28 Fellowship and the Gulfstream II biz jet.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Benni said:
Slightly Off Topic :

When USAF were stationed at Frankfurt Air Base,C5A Galaxy was the big daddy of noise.

Their takeoff route often went straight over the part of the town where I worked,

and sounds of a busy 4 wide mainstreet were simply drowned by that deep drooooooooooooone.

Sounded like a "Big Block" engine, still miss that.

Were the engines just bigger than all the others, were they ever put in another plane ?
The Galaxy is powered by the General Electric TF-39 turbofan which evolved into the CF-6 engine. Many aircraft - including some 747s, many DC-10s and Airbus A300 and Airbus 310 all used the CF-6.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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hammo19 said:
jmorgan said:
As an air cadet at summer camp at Brize Norton late 70's, the VC10 seemed louder than Concord. The latter was there crew training or something.
I was lucky enough to do 4 hours circuits and bumps in a VC10 at Brize when I was in the Air Cadets......don't remember it being that noisy.

I remember the BAC One-Eleven being both noisy and dirty on take off until they fitted those "hush" units.
It was more an observation between the two rather than how loud. Our tents were just the other side of the fence along the runway, and the noise issue being in the press, we were surprised.


We had some great times, pilots doing a comet comet on us when the aircraft was half roller ball stuff on the floor and half seats, banging head on the ceiling realising we were weightless. Ages in the cockpit chasing to the crew about the job and life etc.


yellowjack

17,075 posts

166 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Anyone mentioned Tredegar House on this thread yet?

http://www.friends-of-tredegar-house.co.uk/your-st...

the link above said:
TREDEGAR HOUSE CRACKING UP!

This was the breaking news in the South Wales Argus Sept 4th 1980.

In fact it was an RAF Vulcan bomber that caused the damage during the military spectacular on 2nd August that year. ‘In the flypast at rehearsal the bomber flew much higher than on the day’ said County Councillor Ron Jones, then Chair of the Leisure Services Committee.
As it made a low pass over the roof of Tredegar House, the vibration set up by the noise cracked a number of ceilings. Apparently a photographer on the roof seriously thought that the House would collapse because of the noise and vibration.
The damage was on the ceilings of the north-west corner of the House, which was an area undergoing restoration. Councillor Jones further stated ‘The ceiling in the Pink Room has a large crack in it, there are minor cracks in the ceiling of the Brown Room and in the Gilt Room the ceiling has flaked. We cannot put a price on the damage because we do know, but if any of those ceilings collapsed the cost of replacing any one of them could be astronomical.
Measurement rods were put into the Gilt Room ceiling and the Council was looking at their insurance policies!
A claim for damages was put in to the Military Defence – emergency repairs were estimated at £5,000 though this would not be the end of the matter, especially as the Gilt Room had just undergone a £12,000 refurbishment.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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I did, in the other thread.



Edited by jmorgan on Wednesday 14th October 11:42

Benni

3,512 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Eric : Thank you for the info. Still think that the C5A was louder than the civilian planes mentioned,

maybe because of the big load of the plane or less noise restrictions on military aircraft.

Now BTT, the Yeovilton video impressed some work colleagues who never heard of a Vulcan before.