85' Princess Yacht
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I guess you went to the boat show!
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noneedtolift said:
Boatbuoy said:
I have an ambition to one day do a McLaren F1/Gordon Murray-esk boat project. Clean sheet of paper and blank cheque required!
Dreams eh?
Share that dream. Done the car bit - boat next. Fear my blank cheque would most definately bounce though....Dreams eh?
Why would you want a 'Plastic Fantastic' when you could have one of these? Okay, a little more expensive but with a long range and quality to last a lifetime.
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
Our firm, matrixLloyd, helps people to buy large yachts – in particular novice buyers.
We act for the buyer, as opposed to a yacht broker or yard rep, who acts for the seller. We want happy ongoing owners rather than just a sale, and don’t work on a commission-basis.
Princess Yachts’ build quality is generally better than most, but individual craftsmen and engineers can all have bad days, and, as every boat is different, there is often a certain amount of wheel reinvention which goes into each build.
Design-wise, Princesses are on the conservative side compared to Sunseekers or Italian boats.
My advice would always be to go for a used boat, not new – they depreciate like crazy and technical issues and flaws take a lot longer to be ironed-out than with a new supercar. There are some bargains to be had right now, too.
Most importantly, your client needs to think about whether he is happy to employ crew, or whether he wants to drive it himself. At this size you're almost certainly looking at employing crew.
Lots to think about, but don’t lose sight of the fact that nothing else offers so much fun and freedom.
We act for the buyer, as opposed to a yacht broker or yard rep, who acts for the seller. We want happy ongoing owners rather than just a sale, and don’t work on a commission-basis.
Princess Yachts’ build quality is generally better than most, but individual craftsmen and engineers can all have bad days, and, as every boat is different, there is often a certain amount of wheel reinvention which goes into each build.
Design-wise, Princesses are on the conservative side compared to Sunseekers or Italian boats.
My advice would always be to go for a used boat, not new – they depreciate like crazy and technical issues and flaws take a lot longer to be ironed-out than with a new supercar. There are some bargains to be had right now, too.
Most importantly, your client needs to think about whether he is happy to employ crew, or whether he wants to drive it himself. At this size you're almost certainly looking at employing crew.
Lots to think about, but don’t lose sight of the fact that nothing else offers so much fun and freedom.
Thanks for t,he answers guys, just genuinely interested as too where they stood in the rankings.
The people I took to see it are buying as a replacement as their current one is a bit cramped! The yacht will be crewed and I'm really hoping for an invite to sail on her which given my clients previous history is entirely likely, the sooner the better. She will be moored at the edge of Eastern Europe so that will be another area to tick off the list.
They are not the sort of people to buy secondhand either!
The people I took to see it are buying as a replacement as their current one is a bit cramped! The yacht will be crewed and I'm really hoping for an invite to sail on her which given my clients previous history is entirely likely, the sooner the better. She will be moored at the edge of Eastern Europe so that will be another area to tick off the list.
They are not the sort of people to buy secondhand either!
Dilligaf10 said:
Thanks for t,he answers guys, just genuinely interested as too where they stood in the rankings.
The people I took to see it are buying as a replacement as their current one is a bit cramped! The yacht will be crewed and I'm really hoping for an invite to sail on her which given my clients previous history is entirely likely, the sooner the better. She will be moored at the edge of Eastern Europe so that will be another area to tick off the list.
They are not the sort of people to buy secondhand either!
There are no rankings - it's just a question of what your client's wants and needs are. Build quality only drops off significantly with boats made in the Far East. But be careful, as clever branding exercises can disguise a boat's true build pedigree.The people I took to see it are buying as a replacement as their current one is a bit cramped! The yacht will be crewed and I'm really hoping for an invite to sail on her which given my clients previous history is entirely likely, the sooner the better. She will be moored at the edge of Eastern Europe so that will be another area to tick off the list.
They are not the sort of people to buy secondhand either!
Do they have experience of employing crew already? Good crew make all the difference. Some are passionate and loyal, others (many, in my experience) resent their employer's wealth, take kickbacks and don't bother with essential maintenance - especially on 'small' boats like this without dedicated engineering crew.
Nothing wrong with buying new, of course, but the devil is in the detail as far as the build contract and warranty is concerned. Buy through a broker and your client may pay significantly over the odds. Chose a financially weak yard or accept flawed build guarantees and your client could lose very large sums of money.
Fishtigua said:
Why would you want a 'Plastic Fantastic' when you could have one of these? Okay, a little more expensive but with a long range and quality to last a lifetime.
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
Stunning!http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
^ Wot he said. Looking around one at the boat show isn't the same as being at sea in one ! Boy do they creak in anything over a 5 !
I run a Tiawanese plastic Gin palace, and it's a lot sturdier built than any of the U.K. or Italian production boats, but when it gets to a 6 I then go on to the broken crystal scale
Better something smaller, better built, and displacement. If you want to go fast, buy a Leer Jet.
Personaly I prefer boats with a stick and flappy things.
I run a Tiawanese plastic Gin palace, and it's a lot sturdier built than any of the U.K. or Italian production boats, but when it gets to a 6 I then go on to the broken crystal scale
Better something smaller, better built, and displacement. If you want to go fast, buy a Leer Jet.
Personaly I prefer boats with a stick and flappy things.
jenkotvr said:
Fishtigua said:
Why would you want a 'Plastic Fantastic' when you could have one of these? Okay, a little more expensive but with a long range and quality to last a lifetime.
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
Stunning!http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
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