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wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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From what I hear as you say she remains a member of the fleet, and a declared asset until she decommissions.

Sadly I think the next journey she makes will be under tow to Aliaga.

T66ORA

3,474 posts

257 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Decommissioning Ceremony on the 28th of August, applied for an invite.

The 1982 crew have been awarded the South Atlantic medal, 32 years on.
Apparently there had been a campaign for the "forgotten task force" to be recognised for there efforts.
I presume the ship will now get the Battle honour as well.
Not sure how this will go down with the SAMA?
What do you think about this?

Eric Mc

122,020 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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SAMA?

South Atlantic Military Association.....?

Topbuzz

222 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Walked into the yard (with the aid of an mod pass) and was given a tour a couple of weeks ago. Glad I was able to visit an Invincible class carrier before they disappear. I remember seeing Invincible docked on a family visit in 83, showing all my friends at school the photo I'd taken.

T66ORA

3,474 posts

257 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
SAMA?

South Atlantic Military Association.....?
Sorry Eric, here we go. http://www.sama82.org.uk/

Eric Mc

122,020 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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I thought "M" might stand for "medal" but then I thought that would be a bit presumptious.

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Here is my pic of Invincible...



Being brought in to the docks in Barrow after launching in to Walney channel 1977.

Yep, and that is me, aged three!

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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T66ORA said:
Decommissioning Ceremony on the 28th of August, applied for an invite.

The 1982 crew have been awarded the South Atlantic medal, 32 years on.
Apparently there had been a campaign for the "forgotten task force" to be recognised for there efforts.
I presume the ship will now get the Battle honour as well.
Not sure how this will go down with the SAMA?
What do you think about this?
Inappropriate to award a battle honor to Illustrious. The cease fire had been declared so the conflict was over by the time she got down there to relieve Invincible. Not even sure about the crew getting a campaign medal as the campaign was over when she pitched up.

Scrappie1

1 posts

116 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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I was on Lusty 1982 during Falklands. Artificer Apprentice. Would love to be at the Decom of her. How do you apply for an invite??
T66ORA said:
Decommissioning Ceremony on the 28th of August, applied for an invite.

The 1982 crew have been awarded the South Atlantic medal, 32 years on.
Apparently there had been a campaign for the "forgotten task force" to be recognised for there efforts.
I presume the ship will now get the Battle honour as well.
Not sure how this will go down with the SAMA?
What do you think about this?

donutsina911

1,049 posts

184 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Looking good for an old girl on her last day in the Fleet.

Sad day.




Marc W

3,782 posts

211 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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wildcat45 said:
From what I hear as you say she remains a member of the fleet, and a declared asset until she decommissions.

Sadly I think the next journey she makes will be under tow to Aliaga.
The Local BBC news seem to think she'll be kept as a floating museum.

Eric Mc

122,020 posts

265 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Only if someone with that inclination buys her. She is technically "For Sale".

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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The national news has also reported, that she is for sale, but that she has to be kept in the UK.

Surely that would put the potential purchasers off? silly

donutsina911

1,049 posts

184 months

T66ORA

3,474 posts

257 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Never got a reply, so missed out frown.
Probably full of toffs, vips and grunters anyway hehe
Pity Jock Slater never made it, he threw the thing around like a Type 21!!
Would like to get on board before she is mothballed.
All the South Atlantic crew should get there SAM on board imo, remembrance week?
The MoD will have to subsidise any future project to make it viable, if it is to become a museum maybe they could found the conversion needed?

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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T66ORA said:
All the South Atlantic crew should get there SAM on board imo, remembrance week?
Why? The cease fire was on the 14th June and Illustrious didn't take over from Invincible until the 28th August. The South Atlantic Campaign medal was awarded in recognition of taking part in the 'Falklands Conflict' with rosette for those who operated inside the exclusion zone.

T66ORA

3,474 posts

257 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Speculatore said:
Why? The cease fire was on the 14th June and Illustrious didn't take over from Invincible until the 28th August. The South Atlantic Campaign medal was awarded in recognition of taking part in the 'Falklands Conflict' with rosette for those who operated inside the exclusion zone.
Why? Well, rightly or wrongly the criteria has recently been changed, the ships company and the rest of the forgotten task force, including HM ships, Battleaxe,Birmingham,Liverpool,Southampton,Amazon, Diomede and others, have now been awarded the medal,without Rosette.
Do i personally agree? yes and no is the answer, your dates are, of course correct.
However Illustrious sailed from Newcastle,around the 8th of June IIRC? for more stores at Portsmouth, then work up and commission on route to the South Atlantic, as far as crew were concerned they where going to war, ok the cease fire was declared,on the islands, when did Argentina cease hostilities?
The ships were in defence watches, and went action stations on numerous occasions as Aircraft frequently took off from the mainland to "test our defences" right up till October. Do these guys deserve a medal? possibly not, do the personal serving in May 82 at Northwood and Accension deserve one then?
I lost a couple of ex Hermes mess mates on Ardent, and still remember the joy
one of them had to get drafted to a 21!! now these lads really deserve theres.
Today you get a medal for Queens birthdays,or being on the thrown, what next? Williams wedding anniversary?
As i understand it the crew of 82 have to apply to the MoD for the award, so if they feel, unworthy,they won`t bother.
For those who want the recognition, my original opinion stands, let them receive it on board.

GEARJAMMER

445 posts

139 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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It would be nice to see Lusty kept in Portsmouth, I don't know if its possible due to her size but would be great to see it permanently moored alongside Warrior in that area between Warrior and Portsmouth Harbour railway station, that area is an eye sore, especially when the tide is out.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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GEARJAMMER said:
It would be nice to see Lusty kept in Portsmouth, I don't know if its possible due to her size but would be great to see it permanently moored alongside Warrior in that area between Warrior and Portsmouth Harbour railway station, that area is an eye sore, especially when the tide is out.
Not much they can do about the mud, but it's a reasonably busy area for small fishing craft launching from the tiny, cobbled slip there.
The whole Hard area has just been approved for a complete revamp of all its transport links, so maybe plopping a dirty great big grey whale might not be considered a way of improving the aesthetics.

https://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/ext/development-and-...

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/traffic-travel/ne...

T66ORA

3,474 posts

257 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Sad news coming out today, via the Illustrious association that the ship will be scrapped. Apparently a deal with Turks is just about complete.
We await official conformation, sad, but not unexpected news.

Edit to add, they are now saying no such decision has yet been made, time will tell?

Edited by T66ORA on Thursday 11th February 20:56


Edited by T66ORA on Thursday 11th February 20:57