Lancaster Flypast: Ladybower/Derwent/Howden, May 2013?

Lancaster Flypast: Ladybower/Derwent/Howden, May 2013?

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frodo_monkey

670 posts

196 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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From memory of yesterday, canopy internals are matt black and the harness/seat squab are both a sort of forest green.

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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frodo_monkey said:
I'm a nav on 617... Can't do you a pic of the exact aircraft, due to being in sunnier climes, but I'll root through my pics or take you some new ones.
Thank you very much, obviously that would be perfect.

Another daft question is how are the belts left when the cockpit is unoccupied? Are they draped over the seat or are the different belts arranged in a certain way to make it easier/safer for the crew to get positioned in the seat?

The other thing I forgot to ask was if anyone knew of an online detail photo of the undersides of the empty fuselage ventral racks, and the empty missile pylons (the ones adjacent to the wing tanks).

BTW there's no rush for this stuff - I tend to work and think very slowly.

Thanks again.


dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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frodo_monkey said:
From memory of yesterday, canopy internals are matt black and the harness/seat squab are both a sort of forest green.
Ta - I thought the canopy might be black. From what I can make out there is some kind of pipework along the lower edges too - maybe something to do with demisting?

frodo_monkey

670 posts

196 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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I can take you some pictures tomorrow, is on here best? Shoulder straps are normally draped in an X pattern over the headbox, lap straps on the seat, leg and arm restraint positions have changed recently but normally around control column in the front and on the nav hand controller pedestal in the back...

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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frodo_monkey said:
I can take you some pictures tomorrow, is on here best? Shoulder straps are normally draped in an X pattern over the headbox, lap straps on the seat, leg and arm restraint positions have changed recently but normally around control column in the front and on the nav hand controller pedestal in the back...
That would be great, thanks very much. I'm sure others on here would be interested to see the pictures too, or I can PM you if you'd rather send them direct.



perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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I promise you Frodomonkey, doc is not the only one who'd love to benefit from any pictures you may be able to show.

Likewise any other info such as the seat's strap stowage as you just posted.

Some of us want to soak all this stuff up, digest and then maybe some day later attempt to get nearly as good a model GR4 as doc gives us.

So I'd like to hang on his coat tails if you don't mind.



bill

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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perdu said:
I promise you Frodomonkey, doc is not the only one who'd love to benefit from any pictures you may be able to show.

Likewise any other info such as the seat's strap stowage as you just posted.

Some of us want to soak all this stuff up, digest and then maybe some day later attempt to get nearly as good a model GR4 as doc gives us.

So I'd like to hang on his coat tails if you don't mind.



bill
I've got a spare Airfix GR.4 if you'd like it Perdu whistle



frodo_monkey

670 posts

196 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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Sorry - just realised I have been remiss and not uploaded the photos! Please see below; if there is anything else you would like a picture of then let me know and I'll see if I can help:

'On state':


Front seat:


Rear seat:


Centreline pylon area - DMS Brimstone on the left, Paveway IV on the right as you look at it:


smile

frodo_monkey

670 posts

196 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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I forgot to arrange the straps in standard fashion for the pics - imagine the QRF (i.e. the belt buckle) laid as in the front cockpit shot, and the shoulder straps lain over the top of the seat similar to the back seat shot (well, the left shoulder one anyway)...

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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frodo_monkey said:
I forgot to arrange the straps in standard fashion for the pics - imagine the QRF (i.e. the belt buckle) laid as in the front cockpit shot, and the shoulder straps lain over the top of the seat similar to the back seat shot (well, the left shoulder one anyway)...
They're great, thanks very much for your time. I think with these and the ones posted by ecsrobin on my model thread here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

...I've got just about enough references now. Hopefully the model will do justice to the info.

One remaining thing is what do the undersides of the ventral bomb racks look like with no stores in place? Are they just flat or are there visible features for attaching the various types of stores?

frodo_monkey

670 posts

196 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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There are a few brass-coloured lugs (recessed into the pylon) for the stores to attach to, but otherwise blank smile

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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frodo_monkey said:
There are a few brass-coloured lugs (recessed into the pylon) for the stores to attach to, but otherwise blank smile
Thanks very much. All info noted for reference.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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Great photos

That is two Brimstones on the dual racks then? Is that another on the front single rack too? Perspective has beaten me frown

All the real stores fitment stuff is as good as the seat details for me, fabulous!

Weapons fitment is kinda in the blood, dad was an armourer/AG in WW2 so all the technical stuff fascinates me.

Thank you for these.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th January 2014
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Would those things get rid of moles in my lawn?

frodo_monkey

670 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th January 2014
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Its actually a triple DMSB rack on the back left station, with 2 missiles fitted. There are 2x PWIV on the right shoulder pylon, and a LIII targeting pod front left! Recommend a delayed fuse PWIV for subterranean mole targeting...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th January 2014
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Thanks, I'll give you a call....smile

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Slight handbag fight is about to break out on BM, after I asked about colours. I've edged out of the room backwards without anyone noticing.

Can someone who knows (ie FrodoMonkey!) tell me what colour the wheels and gear bays are please? Presumably white originally, now off-white after years of hydraulic misting and brake dust.

Or were they always a light grey colour?

Or something else?

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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dr_gn said:
Slight handbag fight is about to break out on BM, after I asked about colours. I've edged out of the room backwards without anyone noticing.

Can someone who knows (ie FrodoMonkey!) tell me what colour the wheels and gear bays are please? Presumably white originally, now off-white after years of hydraulic misting and brake dust.

Or were they always a light grey colour?

Or something else?
Not an easy one G

I just did a quick Googley images and got this one

Have to say it looks LAG-ey to me, both main and nose gear


ecsrobin

17,119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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dr_gn said:
Slight handbag fight is about to break out on BM, after I asked about colours. I've edged out of the room backwards without anyone noticing.

Can someone who knows (ie FrodoMonkey!) tell me what colour the wheels and gear bays are please? Presumably white originally, now off-white after years of hydraulic misting and brake dust.

Or were they always a light grey colour?

Or something else?
Just logging on to BM to tell them they're all wrong and it's sexy pink for the gear bays...... shoot

dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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perdu said:
dr_gn said:
Slight handbag fight is about to break out on BM, after I asked about colours. I've edged out of the room backwards without anyone noticing.

Can someone who knows (ie FrodoMonkey!) tell me what colour the wheels and gear bays are please? Presumably white originally, now off-white after years of hydraulic misting and brake dust.

Or were they always a light grey colour?

Or something else?
Not an easy one G

I just did a quick Googley images and got this one

Have to say it looks LAG-ey to me, both main and nose gear

Thanks Perdu, that'll do: Light grey it is then.