Lancaster Flypast: Ladybower/Derwent/Howden, May 2013?

Lancaster Flypast: Ladybower/Derwent/Howden, May 2013?

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dr_gn

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Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Just a quick heads-up for anyone close to the Peak District:

I think there is a flypast planned for Thursday 16th May for the BBMF Lancaster over the Howden/Derwent/Ladybower dams. Not sure what time.

I've always missed these events in the past, but I'll try to get out there for this one. With it being the 70th anniversary of the raids, there could well be more RAF aircraft involved.

Ta.


Dunk130TC

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IanMorewood

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Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Have pictures from last time she flew over but will try and keep the date free to see her over the towers again.

dr_gn

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Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Dunk130TC said:
I did have a quick look on there, but couldn't find anything.

I found a suggestion on a random website (that I can't find now) that there is something planned. I'd have thought so since it is a big anniversary.

dr_gn

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Wednesday 17th April 2013
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IanMorewood said:
Have pictures from last time she flew over but will try and keep the date free to see her over the towers again.
What is access to the Fairhomes car park area like? In fact I'd be interested to know what access is allowed in general to the dams area?

I was planning on parking perhaps at Strines and biking up to Whinstone Lee Tor for a good view of the aircraft banking away (presumably to the left), to avoid Win Hill.



IanMorewood

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Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Parking within a couple of miles of the dams last time was a pain in the bum, lots of police, lots of bollards and loads of traffic. Restrictions where limited to marked footpaths only and there where a lot of people walking so riding a bike would have been tricky. Parking up on the Strines and shooting/viewing down into the valley could be a good idea if you have a good scope/binos/lens although you will miss the chance of the iconic between the towers view.

Upatdawn

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Thursday 18th April 2013
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cant find the download database of events ive seen before


dr_gn

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Thursday 18th April 2013
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IanMorewood said:
Parking within a couple of miles of the dams last time was a pain in the bum, lots of police, lots of bollards and loads of traffic. Restrictions where limited to marked footpaths only and there where a lot of people walking so riding a bike would have been tricky. Parking up on the Strines and shooting/viewing down into the valley could be a good idea if you have a good scope/binos/lens although you will miss the chance of the iconic between the towers view.
I can't think of a good "above" viewing place for between the towers, at least not one that's close.

Strange there's nothing on either the BBMF or Peak District websites so cose to the event (assuming there is one).

Ledaig

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Thursday 18th April 2013
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I looked into this a while ago when a flypast was previously suggested.

There was (and still is) nothing I could find regarding an over-fly of the dams, but they had announced a flypast over Cosford.

Cosford Museum

Odd that they would tell us about this but not a flight over the dams.......

IanMorewood

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Upatdawn

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Friday 19th April 2013
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Ledaig said:
Odd that they would tell us about this but not a flight over the dams.......
probably trying to avoid a rush up there

dr_gn

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Friday 19th April 2013
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Upatdawn said:
Ledaig said:
Odd that they would tell us about this but not a flight over the dams.......
probably trying to avoid a rush up there
Then again what's the point of a flypast if nobody's there to see it?

GreatGranny

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Friday 19th April 2013
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I know the area pretty well after living in Sheffield for over 20 years.
Anywhere with 2-3 miles will be heaving so either get there very early or be prepared for a walk.
Strines is probably a 2 hour walk over the tops.
You could park near Hagg Farm and walk to the western side but its quite wooded that side so viewing may be a problem.

dr_gn

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Friday 19th April 2013
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GreatGranny said:
I know the area pretty well after living in Sheffield for over 20 years.
Anywhere with 2-3 miles will be heaving so either get there very early or be prepared for a walk.
Strines is probably a 2 hour walk over the tops.
You could park near Hagg Farm and walk to the western side but its quite wooded that side so viewing may be a problem.
Strines might be a 2 hour walk to the dam wall itself cross-country, but it's probably only 45 mins on a bike by road/bridleway (depending on how many people are on the bridleways).

To get to the Hagg Farm side from Sheffield, you'd have to pass through the most congested area, and parking would probably be a nightmare (if there are no spaces left, or no parking allowed, then what do you do?), so there would seem to be little point from a hassle point of view.

It all depends on where parking is allowed and as you say, how early the traffic builds up.

Mountain biking would seem to be a good option. I'll have a recce session on Sunday morning.

GreatGranny

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Friday 19th April 2013
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Sorry yes Hagg Farm is ok only if you are coming from Glossop direction.

I was just about to suggest mountain biking but not ideal for some people.

Even parking Bamford or Thornhill and cycling along the eastern side of Ladybower and Derwent would be an easy route, nice and flat :-)

dr_gn

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Friday 19th April 2013
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GreatGranny said:
Sorry yes Hagg Farm is ok only if you are coming from Glossop direction.

I was just about to suggest mountain biking but not ideal for some people.

Even parking Bamford or Thornhill and cycling along the eastern side of Ladybower and Derwent would be an easy route, nice and flat :-)
Yeah, or Bamford, or even Hope would be OK too - there's a bridleway over the hill to the A57, then up to the Hagg Side ridge. Might be even better then the Strines idea, but despite having been biking in that area for nearly 15 years I can't remember if there's a good vantage point above and in the vicinity of the dam wall (on either side). There are plenty of good views at the A57 bridge end of the dam, but they'd be a fair distance from the aircraft I think. Maybe just stand somewhere on the perimeter track near the towers and be done with it?

IanMorewood

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Friday 19th April 2013
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Sheffield side if you get the right spot on Pike Low you should be able to see the towers on Howden Water pretty well. You would need a decent zoom lens to take quality photo's.

mybrainhurts

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Friday 19th April 2013
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Last time cars were ticketed by ballot. Much that I'd love to go, it must be an access nightmare.

Don't know if they'll do it again, but they flew down the Hope Valley after the event and turned right over Hathersage to Chatsworth. I heard the main road from Hathersage up to the Surprise made a good grandstand.

Met a couple from Canada who live near the Canadian Lancaster. Last time, they were over here to view and walked from Strines.

dr_gn

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Saturday 20th April 2013
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IanMorewood said:
Sheffield side if you get the right spot on Pike Low you should be able to see the towers on Howden Water pretty well. You would need a decent zoom lens to take quality photo's.
It's the Derwent dam wall they fly low over usually I think. Howden is the first of the three dams in the valley. There is a Pike Low adjacent to the Howden dam wall (presumably that's the one you mean?), but the summit must be more than 1/2 mile from the flightpath.

tdm34

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Saturday 20th April 2013
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I went to the 50th in 1993, and it was fantastic, Mossie RR299 and a quartet of Tornado's as well as PA474 brilliant day
But! there was a park and ride scheme and it took hours

I'll see if I can root some pictures out and scan them later