Renovating an old wooden sports boat, am I mad?

Renovating an old wooden sports boat, am I mad?

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Huntsman

8,080 posts

251 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Maser - not sure how much experience you have with epoxy, but, if its limited a oneday course at one of the suppliers is more informative than you might think. I use scales for the mix, works very well.

OneDs

1,628 posts

177 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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RichB said:
But we can still make wild suggestions about what engineS to fit biglaugh
Hell yes! nuts

maser_spyder

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6,356 posts

183 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Planning to use the West Systems epoxy because it comes with little pumps on the top of the bottles so you can pump out directly on to scales, much easier to mix (even small amounts).

All the rest, duly noted, ta. smile

Silicon bronze nails/screws are expensive in the UK. irked Need to order some from the US where it's about 1/3 or 1/2 of the price here. I've found some square-head screws that look really good, much easier than slotted when you're using hundreds of them....

Simpo Two

85,603 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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maser_spyder said:
I've found some square-head screws that look really good
A bit harsh on the Germans!

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

203 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Years ago one of the first boats that I fitted out I used West Epoxy Systems with the pumps attached to the tops of the bottles, it never failed and is a very easy system to use, especially with all of the other various balls, silicoid powders, thickeners that you can buy from them.
Also very helpful on information, I used to buy direct from them at their warehouse at Southampton.


maser_spyder said:
Planning to use the West Systems epoxy because it comes with little pumps on the top of the bottles so you can pump out directly on to scales, much easier to mix (even small amounts).

All the rest, duly noted, ta. smile

Silicon bronze nails/screws are expensive in the UK. irked Need to order some from the US where it's about 1/3 or 1/2 of the price here. I've found some square-head screws that look really good, much easier than slotted when you're using hundreds of them....

mickrick

3,700 posts

174 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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They run some good weekend courses down in Sothampton too.
I did thier fiberglass boat repair course. I think they call themselves Wessex Resins iirc?
Nice sandwiches too smile

maser_spyder

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6,356 posts

183 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Thanks chaps, I just checked Wessex Resins to find they're about half a mile from where I went to school and only ten minutes from where I live, perfect.

I was going to buy the stuff online, didn't realise they were so close!

Will keep an eye on their site for the next course, that would be a useful life skill for sure.

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Huntsman

8,080 posts

251 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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maser_spyder said:
Thanks chaps, I just checked Wessex Resins to find they're about half a mile from where I went to school and only ten minutes from where I live, perfect.

I was going to buy the stuff online, didn't realise they were so close!

Will keep an eye on their site for the next course, that would be a useful life skill for sure.

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You'll learn all about amine blush and using peel ply and that will have a big impact on your work.

mickrick

3,700 posts

174 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Also get yourself the book by the inventors of West System, you´ll have hours of fun reading it in the smallest room smile

"The Gougeon Brothers On Boat Construction, wood & west system materials."

OneDs

1,628 posts

177 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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mickrick said:
Also get yourself the book by the inventors of West System, you´ll have hours of fun reading it in the smallest room smile

"The Gougeon Brothers On Boat Construction, wood & west system materials."
That book as well as a host of west systems guides are available as PDFs on the west systems website under -how to use - use guides. The gougden book is over 400 pages and as mickrick says perfect for losing hours in the loo.

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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It is just a brilliant book to have great reading.

Simpo Two

85,603 posts

266 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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mickrick said:
"The Gougeon Brothers On Boat Construction, wood & west system materials."
Whilst looking for that I stumbled on http://www.amazon.co.uk/Buehlers-Backyard-Boatbuil...

No idea how good it is but I like the cover and the synopsis!

Brother D

3,739 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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I've just lost the best part of an hour reading about a young kid building a prototype boat!

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?166255-...

I'm really impressed! - I guess mum is not at home looking at the kitchen...

tr7v8

7,199 posts

229 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Worth subscribing to the Duckworks mailing list as well. You can lose hours & days looking through there!

P924

1,272 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Brother D said:
I've just lost the best part of an hour reading about a young kid building a prototype boat!

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?166255-...

I'm really impressed! - I guess mum is not at home looking at the kitchen...
An hour? I started Monday morning, and I've only just finished. What a great kid.

mickrick

3,700 posts

174 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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Bump... wink

It´s gone quiet, lost in shed maybe ? smile

maser_spyder

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6,356 posts

183 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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Umm, yeah, er, doing really well. frown

Ok, actually, I've been busy. I sell toys, and it's Christmas next month, busy time of year for me.

Also, setting up a workshop takes AGES. I didn't realise how much time would be spent just shopping for bits and pieces.

Picked up an industrial sized dust extractor today, but will need some extra tubing. More shopping. You get the idea.

On the plus side, the workshop is clear. The new tools have been bolted down to the table and are ready to go. I just need a sheet of MDF to put over my metal table and I'll start drawing lines at last. I could do it without but it would mess up the paper plans and I want to keep them safe.

So, it's on the move, but will be properly on the move once Christmas is done and dusted!

Hoping to get some of the templates done in the next couple of weeks, then I can get the timber ordered (more shopping).

On the plus side, I'm not short of tools and equipment, and once I get started I should have everything I need!

Just remembered I need an oil tank for the space heater, it's freezing in there right now. More damned shopping!

RichB

51,649 posts

285 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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OOI is this going in a river when it's completed or will you trailer it around?

bluesatin

3,114 posts

273 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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I would add a small wood burner if you intend being in the workshop all day. Great way of getting rid of waste wood!

maser_spyder

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6,356 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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bluesatin said:
I would add a small wood burner if you intend being in the workshop all day. Great way of getting rid of waste wood!
That's a ridiculously good idea, with just one problem....

The workshop pics that I get later will show you why, I've got 5m eaves so would need a massive chimney!

And also, I've got a wooden floor, so a wood burner might not be the safest thing to have. smile

I could put a metal bit down though and place it on top, and if the chimney went out of the wall, that could work.

But here we are again, more shopping and still no action!