Renovating an old wooden sports boat, am I mad?
Discussion
Here goes.
My work table (one of them!). 4m x 2m. Doesn't look that big in the pics, but it's huuuuuge.
My new bandsaw. New dust extractor I just picked up yesterday in the background. I want to get some more tubing for this to attach it to the table router as well as the bandsaw, and possibly the sander too.
Sander and table router.
Some new Bosch goodies. I do love Bosch power tools, they're just the best.
The reason this project has been held up, my two-decked transporter that I've just finished making today. Couple of final touches needed and it's ready to go.
The rest of my workshop has some useful bits and pieces too.
And the obligatory scrap metal corner.
I've lost a bit that I was going to use to do the tracing, once I've found that I'll get started with the drawing on to MDF, then start cutting templates....
My work table (one of them!). 4m x 2m. Doesn't look that big in the pics, but it's huuuuuge.
My new bandsaw. New dust extractor I just picked up yesterday in the background. I want to get some more tubing for this to attach it to the table router as well as the bandsaw, and possibly the sander too.
Sander and table router.
Some new Bosch goodies. I do love Bosch power tools, they're just the best.
The reason this project has been held up, my two-decked transporter that I've just finished making today. Couple of final touches needed and it's ready to go.
The rest of my workshop has some useful bits and pieces too.
And the obligatory scrap metal corner.
I've lost a bit that I was going to use to do the tracing, once I've found that I'll get started with the drawing on to MDF, then start cutting templates....
That looks like a really useful amount of space, that high ceiling will mean even a big log burner will only heat the immediate 6ft around it and then the roof space, so good luck doing it through the winter. I'm sure you know this but the ambient temperature will have a big impact on your Epoxy usage, so check the instructions (go on the course mentioned previously).
OneDs said:
That looks like a really useful amount of space, that high ceiling will mean even a big log burner will only heat the immediate 6ft around it and then the roof space, so good luck doing it through the winter. I'm sure you know this but the ambient temperature will have a big impact on your Epoxy usage, so check the instructions (go on the course mentioned previously).
An array of space heaters required. Or do they not mix well with the fumes likely to be around?I made a start at last! Container delivery late. Workshop already tidy. Seemed like the perfect time.
That Bosch jig saw is superb, really easy to use, excellent purchase!
So, I'm tracing to MDF, cutting, and sanding to get a perfect match with the plans. These are just the formers that I'll use to draw the cut lines and router the real timber.
Hull ones done. Moving to the upper frames next. Actually a lot quicker than I thought it would be.
Epoxy, not worried, I won't be getting that far until the Spring at this rate!
That Bosch jig saw is superb, really easy to use, excellent purchase!
So, I'm tracing to MDF, cutting, and sanding to get a perfect match with the plans. These are just the formers that I'll use to draw the cut lines and router the real timber.
Hull ones done. Moving to the upper frames next. Actually a lot quicker than I thought it would be.
Epoxy, not worried, I won't be getting that far until the Spring at this rate!
Huntsman said:
I'm not some H and S flag waving moron, but do go careful with MDF dust and dust in general, teak makes me sneeze.
Totally agree, and part of the reason I didn't start until I had the proper dust extractor.My grandad suffered from emphesemia for many years, what a bloody miserable disease it was too, no chance I'm risking that. So, mask on, extractor on every time I cut and sand.
Not much done today, I've been busy playing with these....
maser_spyder said:
Huntsman said:
I'm not some H and S flag waving moron, but do go careful with MDF dust and dust in general, teak makes me sneeze.
Totally agree, and part of the reason I didn't start until I had the proper dust extractor.My grandad suffered from emphesemia for many years, what a bloody miserable disease it was too, no chance I'm risking that. So, mask on, extractor on every time I cut and sand.
Not much done today, I've been busy playing with these....
Lots and lots of ride ons, and a few other bits, furniture, bikes, skis, snowboards, wooden stuff, but they all go from a huge warehouse in Southampton. Tigris Toys (shameless plug....). Easy to find.
Update tonight, finished a few bits off. Starting on the templates for upper frames and bracing. All going ridiculously well so far (no fingers lost, no blood, no disasters). At this rate I'll be ready for proper timber in a week or two! Will get it ordered tomorrow.
So, here's the hull frame templates, which gives you an idea of the shape of underneath.
And an idea of how these are drawn. MDF on the table, covered with carbon paper. Plans directly over the top and make outlines. Remove plans, join the dots. Cut with the jigsaw. Offer up to the template, sand and fine tune where needed. I'm working to about 0.5mm accuracy according to the plans, probably way over the top, but I'd rather get it spot on now and make it easier later.
This slightly odd shaped piece is the first frame, hence the double form all in a single piece, it's not worth joining two together when you can just use a slightly wider length of timber.
I've now cut 12 formers, and have about 14 left to go (the later ones are a little easier), so hoping to have a full set of frame templates done in around a week.
The plan is to finish the frame templates, and whilst I'm waiting for timber, to make up the jig that I'll do the build on. I thinking of getting a couple of RSJs and some really big casters, so I have a sturdy frame that I can wheel around the workshop as and when I need to. Building it in one place just isn't feasible unfortunately. I have loads of space, but there's always something else going on!
And to prove I'm being extra careful with the MDF dust, and that it's really me doing this....
Update tonight, finished a few bits off. Starting on the templates for upper frames and bracing. All going ridiculously well so far (no fingers lost, no blood, no disasters). At this rate I'll be ready for proper timber in a week or two! Will get it ordered tomorrow.
So, here's the hull frame templates, which gives you an idea of the shape of underneath.
And an idea of how these are drawn. MDF on the table, covered with carbon paper. Plans directly over the top and make outlines. Remove plans, join the dots. Cut with the jigsaw. Offer up to the template, sand and fine tune where needed. I'm working to about 0.5mm accuracy according to the plans, probably way over the top, but I'd rather get it spot on now and make it easier later.
This slightly odd shaped piece is the first frame, hence the double form all in a single piece, it's not worth joining two together when you can just use a slightly wider length of timber.
I've now cut 12 formers, and have about 14 left to go (the later ones are a little easier), so hoping to have a full set of frame templates done in around a week.
The plan is to finish the frame templates, and whilst I'm waiting for timber, to make up the jig that I'll do the build on. I thinking of getting a couple of RSJs and some really big casters, so I have a sturdy frame that I can wheel around the workshop as and when I need to. Building it in one place just isn't feasible unfortunately. I have loads of space, but there's always something else going on!
And to prove I'm being extra careful with the MDF dust, and that it's really me doing this....
TIMBEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!
Turned out that Robbins Timber had the best quote and fastest delivery time, so they got the business.
One thing they were stupidly expensive on though was 18mm ply, more than double elsewhere. Strange.
Almost everything else they were 10% cheaper on, or more.
Even better, the guy who looked at the quote obviously checked the boat specs and worked out the most suitable lengths based on what's available, so did most of the hard work for me. Excellent service.
I've got ply ply ply ordered (loads of it), and a heap of douglas fir in various lengths and sizes.
Lead time of 7-10 days, so I should be getting it just before Christmas.
I really need to get the templates finished now, so I can start cutting as soon as the lumber arrives!
I'll probably draw around the timber with a pencil, rough cut with the band saw, and fine cut with the table router. Or alternatively, if it's a tricky bit, I'll jigsaw it then router it.
Next on my list - silicon bronze screws and nails. Stupidly expensive but the only stuff that'll do the job.
Looks like I'm going to need epoxy before too long as well, the gussets need to be epoxied and screwed to the frames, which means learning how to do it properly.....
On the lookout for a heating oil tank so I can fire up the space heater, which will jolly things along nicely.
Current budget stands at c. £3000 with all timber purchased and about half the ply I'll need. Includes all the new tools I bought too.
Turned out that Robbins Timber had the best quote and fastest delivery time, so they got the business.
One thing they were stupidly expensive on though was 18mm ply, more than double elsewhere. Strange.
Almost everything else they were 10% cheaper on, or more.
Even better, the guy who looked at the quote obviously checked the boat specs and worked out the most suitable lengths based on what's available, so did most of the hard work for me. Excellent service.
I've got ply ply ply ordered (loads of it), and a heap of douglas fir in various lengths and sizes.
Lead time of 7-10 days, so I should be getting it just before Christmas.
I really need to get the templates finished now, so I can start cutting as soon as the lumber arrives!
I'll probably draw around the timber with a pencil, rough cut with the band saw, and fine cut with the table router. Or alternatively, if it's a tricky bit, I'll jigsaw it then router it.
Next on my list - silicon bronze screws and nails. Stupidly expensive but the only stuff that'll do the job.
Looks like I'm going to need epoxy before too long as well, the gussets need to be epoxied and screwed to the frames, which means learning how to do it properly.....
On the lookout for a heating oil tank so I can fire up the space heater, which will jolly things along nicely.
Current budget stands at c. £3000 with all timber purchased and about half the ply I'll need. Includes all the new tools I bought too.
maser_spyder said:
Next on my list - silicon bronze screws and nails. Stupidly expensive but the only stuff that'll do the job.
I know Davey & Co used to keep a good range of fastenings. God knows what the price is like these days.http://www.davey.co.uk/davey_and_co_products.html
Huntsman said:
What's happening? Is it nearly finished?
Cheeky bugger. 
Just had a call an hour ago, timber is coming tomorrow.
So, Christmas out of the way and I'll start using my templates to cut out the frames for real.
Sorted out my space heater so I can do a bit of epoxying to make up the frames properly.
Launch in April?
(Not sure what year)
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