Renovating an old wooden sports boat, am I mad?
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Simpo Two said:
RichB said:
We must have a grand launch and drink a glass to her when goes in the water. 
Sadly the budget for the launch party in Monaco has been frittered away on fine timbers and shiny brass bits. It will now comprise spam sandwiches and a plastic glass of Tesco Value lemonade 
It would save faffing about with a trailer, and enable bathchair access once Maser is completely enfeebled. 
The ham-fisted herberts who drive the forklifts at these dry stack operations would have the boat crippled and leaking in a matter of moments. Not my favourite people, my mate used have a yacht moored next to one. It was our Sunday evening entertainment watching the bangs and whallops as lumps of gelcoat were being destroyed by these morons.
It's not that bad! I must admit though, I bloody felt it yesterday, aching all over. And I've still got loads more to do on the sides.
Like all projects, you normally come out of the blocks like a panther, and then other things come along and it stalls. I've no doubt this will do the same at some point, just, not yet.
I really do want to get the first layer on the bottom before I go away though, then I can order more ply and the mahogany and it'll be ready for when I get back.
It's Winchester beer festival today, so not much chance of boat building! Tomorrow's on the cards though, might get a full day in.
Like all projects, you normally come out of the blocks like a panther, and then other things come along and it stalls. I've no doubt this will do the same at some point, just, not yet.
I really do want to get the first layer on the bottom before I go away though, then I can order more ply and the mahogany and it'll be ready for when I get back.
It's Winchester beer festival today, so not much chance of boat building! Tomorrow's on the cards though, might get a full day in.
Piccalilli - a fine and rare condiment indeed sir.
I believe a PHer had a hand in making the following video... in which case I think we need to invite him and sort out some fancy dress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkF_XpA5P48
Gotta get me a pith helmet...
I believe a PHer had a hand in making the following video... in which case I think we need to invite him and sort out some fancy dress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkF_XpA5P48
Gotta get me a pith helmet...
A few hours today and it looks no different. I spent the day fine tuning the battens, getting them all flat and aligned so the fairing is easy. There was also a bit of adjustment on one of the frames needed, so that took a bit of fiddling around. Sort of dead time really, but it had to be done.
I also epoxied in the sheer clamp, I'll fit the second laminate next week, plus the couple of extra laminations at the bow and stern. That'll be pretty much it for longitudinals, so just a final few checks and in to the fairing.
The plan is to fair it first, then fit the transom curves and blocking, fair that too, and start to cold mould. It's looking unlikely I'll get a layer on before I head off, but I'll do my best. It would be ideal to have a good idea of how many sheets of ply it's likely to take, then I could get it ordered to be ready when I get back.
A few pics of my newly swept floor.
Some notches were dead easy.
Some were fiddly and difficult. Too many angles to think about.
And just because I could, I had a go with the belt sander to see how easy it was. The fairing is going to take a long time, that's for sure.
I also epoxied in the sheer clamp, I'll fit the second laminate next week, plus the couple of extra laminations at the bow and stern. That'll be pretty much it for longitudinals, so just a final few checks and in to the fairing.
The plan is to fair it first, then fit the transom curves and blocking, fair that too, and start to cold mould. It's looking unlikely I'll get a layer on before I head off, but I'll do my best. It would be ideal to have a good idea of how many sheets of ply it's likely to take, then I could get it ordered to be ready when I get back.
A few pics of my newly swept floor.
Some notches were dead easy.
Some were fiddly and difficult. Too many angles to think about.
And just because I could, I had a go with the belt sander to see how easy it was. The fairing is going to take a long time, that's for sure.
Yep. In my (model) experience this is where you get the lines right. The work put in now will determine the perfection of shape - much sighting and squinting will take place and a great deal of shavings and sawdust made!
Here's a similar stage on my scratch-build CMB which sadly got 'stuck' before completion (being a model we can use bulkheads rather than frames):
Like Maser's, it's the curves wot does it
Here's a similar stage on my scratch-build CMB which sadly got 'stuck' before completion (being a model we can use bulkheads rather than frames):
Like Maser's, it's the curves wot does it
Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 23 March 18:03
Give a man a chance! Just got back on Monday and catching up with work...
I managed a quick squint at it earlier today (and couldn't resist epoxying in a couple of the stringers, nice easy job).
Really, I think I should fix the frames in place before I do much more fairing. I've attacked the stem to get an idea of what's to be done, and it's not going to be a quick job at all (I did know this before). With battens fixed, at least it'll be moving towards a final shape with everything solid and in place.
I might try and get some of it done this weekend, would be good to get it moving again....
I managed a quick squint at it earlier today (and couldn't resist epoxying in a couple of the stringers, nice easy job).
Really, I think I should fix the frames in place before I do much more fairing. I've attacked the stem to get an idea of what's to be done, and it's not going to be a quick job at all (I did know this before). With battens fixed, at least it'll be moving towards a final shape with everything solid and in place.
I might try and get some of it done this weekend, would be good to get it moving again....
Update - It stalled.
As I knew it would, I just got out of the habit (or have just been very, very busy) of doing 2 or 3 days / part days a week.
However, I've started the fairing which is about as time consuming as I thought it would be.
I have to be at the workshop today to wait for a pallet collection, so the plan is to do a bit of boating at the same time. I'm going to do some things I really should have done ages ago, epoxying in the stringers, adding the final bits of deck clamp, and really attacking the fairing at the difficult ends.
Fingers crossed by the end of the day, I'll have a frame that's completely ready to fair. I still need to make the transom camber parts, so might get that on the way as well.
I've already started on the really difficult bit to fair, the bow. You can see the amount of angles to consider in the pics, but I am getting in to the swing of how best to approach it with a belt sander.
The centre section is quite simple, just shave off the excess frame which won't take any time at all. The stern is a little complex but not too bad, it's mainly based around getting the deck clamps flat, the stringers are all pretty much flush against the frames already.
So..... Cold moulding will probably start in September. I really do need to get it done before the weather turns though, epoxy just won't work at 4 degrees.
As I knew it would, I just got out of the habit (or have just been very, very busy) of doing 2 or 3 days / part days a week.
However, I've started the fairing which is about as time consuming as I thought it would be.
I have to be at the workshop today to wait for a pallet collection, so the plan is to do a bit of boating at the same time. I'm going to do some things I really should have done ages ago, epoxying in the stringers, adding the final bits of deck clamp, and really attacking the fairing at the difficult ends.
Fingers crossed by the end of the day, I'll have a frame that's completely ready to fair. I still need to make the transom camber parts, so might get that on the way as well.
I've already started on the really difficult bit to fair, the bow. You can see the amount of angles to consider in the pics, but I am getting in to the swing of how best to approach it with a belt sander.
The centre section is quite simple, just shave off the excess frame which won't take any time at all. The stern is a little complex but not too bad, it's mainly based around getting the deck clamps flat, the stringers are all pretty much flush against the frames already.
So..... Cold moulding will probably start in September. I really do need to get it done before the weather turns though, epoxy just won't work at 4 degrees.
maser_spyder said:
Update - It stalled.
As I knew it would, I just got out of the habit (or have just been very, very busy) of doing 2 or 3 days / part days a week.
However, I've started the fairing which is about as time consuming as I thought it would be.
I have to be at the workshop today to wait for a pallet collection, so the plan is to do a bit of boating at the same time. I'm going to do some things I really should have done ages ago, epoxying in the stringers, adding the final bits of deck clamp, and really attacking the fairing at the difficult ends.
Fingers crossed by the end of the day, I'll have a frame that's completely ready to fair. I still need to make the transom camber parts, so might get that on the way as well.
I've already started on the really difficult bit to fair, the bow. You can see the amount of angles to consider in the pics, but I am getting in to the swing of how best to approach it with a belt sander.
The centre section is quite simple, just shave off the excess frame which won't take any time at all. The stern is a little complex but not too bad, it's mainly based around getting the deck clamps flat, the stringers are all pretty much flush against the frames already.
So..... Cold moulding will probably start in September. I really do need to get it done before the weather turns though, epoxy just won't work at 4 degrees.
So am I safe to cancel the space in my diary for a launch this summer?As I knew it would, I just got out of the habit (or have just been very, very busy) of doing 2 or 3 days / part days a week.
However, I've started the fairing which is about as time consuming as I thought it would be.
I have to be at the workshop today to wait for a pallet collection, so the plan is to do a bit of boating at the same time. I'm going to do some things I really should have done ages ago, epoxying in the stringers, adding the final bits of deck clamp, and really attacking the fairing at the difficult ends.
Fingers crossed by the end of the day, I'll have a frame that's completely ready to fair. I still need to make the transom camber parts, so might get that on the way as well.
I've already started on the really difficult bit to fair, the bow. You can see the amount of angles to consider in the pics, but I am getting in to the swing of how best to approach it with a belt sander.
The centre section is quite simple, just shave off the excess frame which won't take any time at all. The stern is a little complex but not too bad, it's mainly based around getting the deck clamps flat, the stringers are all pretty much flush against the frames already.
So..... Cold moulding will probably start in September. I really do need to get it done before the weather turns though, epoxy just won't work at 4 degrees.
Eleven said:
So am I safe to cancel the space in my diary for a launch this summer?
I can pretty safely say that we won't be launching any time in the next 12 months, yes. I've got another month to get as much done as possible, and after that, I need to go somewhere else for a couple of months. I don't know where yet, just somewhere else. Then it's September, winter....
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