Another naughty teacher

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matchmaker

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8,489 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sc...

Job lost. Marriage over. Shortly starring at a prison near me. Silly woman.


(Yes, I would lick)

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Standard reply.

Would be different if it was the other way round 15 year old girl etc.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Clearly not on, against the law, breaching trust etc, but does the article suggest they may not have actually engaged in full on sex? Or is it just worded a bit oddly. Suggests some 'heavy petting' and spending the night 'half clothed'.

What goes through the teacher's head in these cases? Just unfathomable how they think it can possibly end well.

Mashedpotatoes

1,344 posts

148 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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What goes through the teacher's head in these cases?


Umm I'm guessing it was a 16 year olds tadger.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Where were all these naughty teachers when I was at school?

matchmaker

Original Poster:

8,489 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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The online article is limited compared to the press version, which shows her as a very attractive woman, but bizarrely the boy involved doesn't look as old as 16!

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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A dream come true for a schoolboy that age. smile



Edited by Victor McDade on Saturday 30th November 17:20

spitsfire

1,035 posts

135 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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It's a hard one to call: Yes, she shouldn't have done it: Yes, she's done it from a position of trust: Yes, getting fired is well deserved.

On the other hand, she'll probably never be able to make a life for herself in that community after appearing in the Record, her children and ex-husband will be humiliated, she'll be on the sex offenders register, and now she's going to jail. It's slightly disingenuous to cast the boy as an innocent abroad when he waives his anonymity and says "I feel sorry for her and her family. I think I'm a wee bit to blame because I went along with it." 15 year old boys will happily shag anything that moves; they're like a walking hard on with acne and angst attached.

Maybe the tabloid fetish for this sort of thing is resulting in a disproportionate punishment?

I'd add that when I was at school something similar (allegedly) happened with a NQT and a male pupil. He was horrendously badly damaged by it; wanting to tell all his mates how he'd lost his virginity; wanting to brag about having shagged a hot teacher; but not wanting to get her sacked and jailed. The torture of having to keep his mouth shut almost killed him.

I don't know if she's still teaching, but his life through uni didn't seem to have been badly affected by his experiences.

carinaman

21,290 posts

172 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511111/Ne...

This one had me considering joining Facebook and wondering where my old school uniform was and whether I'd still fit in into it.

I've always wanted to learn Welsh, honest.

andymc

7,350 posts

207 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Welsh oral?

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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spitsfire said:
It's a hard one to call: Yes, she shouldn't have done it: Yes, she's done it from a position of trust: Yes, getting fired is well deserved.

On the other hand, she'll probably never be able to make a life for herself in that community after appearing in the Record, her children and ex-husband will be humiliated, she'll be on the sex offenders register, and now she's going to jail. It's slightly disingenuous to cast the boy as an innocent abroad when he waives his anonymity and says "I feel sorry for her and her family. I think I'm a wee bit to blame because I went along with it." 15 year old boys will happily shag anything that moves; they're like a walking hard on with acne and angst attached.

Maybe the tabloid fetish for this sort of thing is resulting in a disproportionate punishment?

I'd add that when I was at school something similar (allegedly) happened with a NQT and a male pupil. He was horrendously badly damaged by it; wanting to tell all his mates how he'd lost his virginity; wanting to brag about having shagged a hot teacher; but not wanting to get her sacked and jailed. The torture of having to keep his mouth shut almost killed him.

I don't know if she's still teaching, but his life through uni didn't seem to have been badly affected by his experiences.
At least he sounds adult enough to care about how it would affect others lives.

Can someone explain to me why its almost acceptable or at least understandable when its a female teacher and male pupil, but not the other way around? I know male teacher male pupil is also seen as terrible, but what about female teacher female pupil? Are their any examples of that? It just seems there's different views and harshness of sentences for what is essentially the same illegality.

turbobloke

103,911 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Rotary Madness said:
spitsfire said:
It's a hard one to call: Yes, she shouldn't have done it: Yes, she's done it from a position of trust: Yes, getting fired is well deserved.

On the other hand, she'll probably never be able to make a life for herself in that community after appearing in the Record, her children and ex-husband will be humiliated, she'll be on the sex offenders register, and now she's going to jail. It's slightly disingenuous to cast the boy as an innocent abroad when he waives his anonymity and says "I feel sorry for her and her family. I think I'm a wee bit to blame because I went along with it." 15 year old boys will happily shag anything that moves; they're like a walking hard on with acne and angst attached.

Maybe the tabloid fetish for this sort of thing is resulting in a disproportionate punishment?

I'd add that when I was at school something similar (allegedly) happened with a NQT and a male pupil. He was horrendously badly damaged by it; wanting to tell all his mates how he'd lost his virginity; wanting to brag about having shagged a hot teacher; but not wanting to get her sacked and jailed. The torture of having to keep his mouth shut almost killed him.

I don't know if she's still teaching, but his life through uni didn't seem to have been badly affected by his experiences.
At least he sounds adult enough to care about how it would affect others lives.

Can someone explain to me why its almost acceptable or at least understandable when its a female teacher and male pupil, but not the other way around? I know male teacher male pupil is also seen as terrible, but what about female teacher female pupil? Are their any examples of that?
At least one fairly recently. There was a more recent case iirc, somebody will post a link in due course.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017450/Bl...

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Rotary Madness said:
Can someone explain to me why its almost acceptable or at least understandable when its a female teacher and male pupil, but not the other way around? I know male teacher male pupil is also seen as terrible, but what about female teacher female pupil? Are their any examples of that? It just seems there's different views and harshness of sentences for what is essentially the same illegality.
In a nutshell. Courts are sexist places*. An adult male is always far more guilty than an adult female. And on a related point courts believe that a teenage girl would only do something illegal if groomed/forced to. Whereas a teenage boy commits crime of his own free will. Which is plainly bks.

  • And even if you remove cases like this. A woman will always get a more lenient sentence than the equivalent man in the same sitation. And how often do we see courts award custody to the woman in a divorce regardless of who is the more fit parent.

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Victor McDade said:
A dream come true for a schoolboy that age. smile



Edited by Victor McDade on Saturday 30th November 17:20
Who made the complaint? If I was a 16 year old and a teacher who looked like that came onto me I'd be fking delighted, not complaining about it.

Halmyre

11,187 posts

139 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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carinaman said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511111/Ne...

This one had me considering joining Facebook and wondering where my old school uniform was and whether I'd still fit in into it.

I've always wanted to learn Welsh, honest.
You cunning linguist!

slipstream 1985

12,218 posts

179 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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nice

Nikolai Petroff

589 posts

133 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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I think that these cases are "grey zones" and need a flexible approach instead of blanket laws. There need to be the psych evaluation of the "victim" to determin harm, if any. Me, at 16 I would have thought all my Xmasses came at once if a hot teacher seduced me, you would have had to brainwash and electroshock me to make me feel otherwise.

With females getting less time for statutory rape, I think it all comes down that even a 15 yearl old male is stronger then an adult femal and there can be no question of physical coercion.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Victor McDade said:
A dream come true for a schoolboy that age. smile



Edited by Victor McDade on Saturday 30th November 17:20
Is it really??

I'd imagine there's a large number of 16 year olds that would rather have a fit 16 year old they can actually date than someone twice their age they can hook up with in a park when no one is looking.

And as this has turned out - if it's something this kid looks back on with pride/bragging rights I'd suggest he moves in a social circle that's as lacking as his girlfriend choices!

otolith

56,072 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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What's even odder about the double standard is that generally teenage boys are less emotionally mature than girls the same age.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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indeed - I can see a 16 year old girl thinking an older man was a good catch. When I was 16 an 18 year old would have been mind blowing. 35....no matter how "fit" in the eyes of 40 year old internet warriors!....would have been like doing my mums mates!