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HiFly apparently are going to take two 2nd hand A380's for charter and wet lease work. But the owner of Singapore Airlines leased A380's is still talking of scraping an airframe to supply the 2nd hand parts market.
The early build airframes have hand fixed wiring, which BA, who is the only A380 operator said they are interested in picking up 2nd hand A380's if at the right price, won't touch the early build airframes.
The early build airframes have hand fixed wiring, which BA, who is the only A380 operator said they are interested in picking up 2nd hand A380's if at the right price, won't touch the early build airframes.
Pompeymedic said:
Has anyone yet bought one for use a private plane? I'm thinking that it would be the ultimate statement of opulence
According to the daily mail a billionaire prince has bought one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251071/Ju...RammyMP said:
According to the daily mail a billionaire prince has bought one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251071/Ju...
I thought the order was cancelled?djc206 said:
RammyMP said:
According to the daily mail a billionaire prince has bought one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251071/Ju...
I thought the order was cancelled?Jamesgt said:
I heard this too. I heard all sorts of stupid stuff about the buyer wanting to take out floor beams so they could have a large room for I can't remember what now. All complete rubbish.
Could you theoretically have a single floor A380 private jet, so just the ground floor left in, some very large high ceiling rooms, mezzanine etc, or is there a structural element to the two floor arrangement?The floors are an integral part of the fuselage and are considered as such for analysis and this affects the entire airframe as a result due to the models used to develop loads.
The private one was supposed to have a cylindrical glass lift that extended from the fuselage between the nose and the wing leading edge. There was also talk of a pool. Somehow they would have had to load/unload their cars on the lower deck too.
If you've got the money, engineers will spend it for you trying to figure out how to give you what you want.
As for the A380plus I imagine it will be a mod program if at all possible. The winglets and wingtips are bolt on and off and the hard work will be trying to work the calcs enough to avoid strengthening internal structure. Again, in my estimation.
The private one was supposed to have a cylindrical glass lift that extended from the fuselage between the nose and the wing leading edge. There was also talk of a pool. Somehow they would have had to load/unload their cars on the lower deck too.
If you've got the money, engineers will spend it for you trying to figure out how to give you what you want.
As for the A380plus I imagine it will be a mod program if at all possible. The winglets and wingtips are bolt on and off and the hard work will be trying to work the calcs enough to avoid strengthening internal structure. Again, in my estimation.
Edited by coanda on Thursday 31st August 23:14
As far as I'm aware, the A380plus modifications cannot be retrofitted to older aircraft; it's only for new ones.
As you say though, I can't see why they can't just whack the winglets on existing aircraft. Perhaps that's all the plus excercise will become in the end if no-one buys them.
As you say though, I can't see why they can't just whack the winglets on existing aircraft. Perhaps that's all the plus excercise will become in the end if no-one buys them.
HoHoHo said:
Trevatanus said:
I'm told that there is an A380 going into Kemble tomorrow for parting out?
I don't know anything about parting out but it seems quite young in its life, what a shame 
Am sure it can happen, just seems a bizarre thing if true, I would have thought these planes would be used for 30 years or more ? are they worth more as parts than a whole secondhand aircraft ?
J4CKO said:
HoHoHo said:
Trevatanus said:
I'm told that there is an A380 going into Kemble tomorrow for parting out?
I don't know anything about parting out but it seems quite young in its life, what a shame Am sure it can happen, just seems a bizarre thing if true, I would have thought these planes would be used for 30 years or more ? are they worth more as parts than a whole secondhand aircraft ?
Bloomberg said:
Airbus SE’s A380 superjumbo faces the ignominy of being broken up for spare parts if second-hand operators for the oldest jets can’t be found in coming months.
The double-deckers could be “parted out” to recover engines and other spares worth at least $100 million per plane, according to German fund manager Dr. Peters, which owns four A380s due to be returned between October and June by Singapore Airlines Ltd. following the expiry of 10-year lease deals.
At the same time, talks are continuing with six potential operators of the jets, including an Asian low-cost airline that would fly them in a 700-seat single-class layout, Chief Executive Officer Anselm Gehling said in an interview. Prospective users also include carriers in the U.S., which has so far eschewed the model, and Europe, where British Airways owner IAG SA is continuing to evaluate deploying used A380s at airlines within the group, he said.
The double-deckers could be “parted out” to recover engines and other spares worth at least $100 million per plane, according to German fund manager Dr. Peters, which owns four A380s due to be returned between October and June by Singapore Airlines Ltd. following the expiry of 10-year lease deals.
At the same time, talks are continuing with six potential operators of the jets, including an Asian low-cost airline that would fly them in a 700-seat single-class layout, Chief Executive Officer Anselm Gehling said in an interview. Prospective users also include carriers in the U.S., which has so far eschewed the model, and Europe, where British Airways owner IAG SA is continuing to evaluate deploying used A380s at airlines within the group, he said.
Jamesgt said:
djc206 said:
I thought the order was cancelled?
I heard this too. I heard all sorts of stupid stuff about the buyer wanting to take out floor beams so they could have a large room for I can't remember what now. All complete rubbish. I do believe the order was either cancelled or never reached agreement in the first place.
jamiebae said:
On the flight tracking sites the last recorded trip was from London to Singapore in June, is it still there or can it move without being picked up by Flight Radar et al?
I'm not sure how it works when parting them out. I'm in Kemble now and nothing has shown up. The scrap aircraft here sometimes have new registrations put on them. Not sure if Singapore airlines will deregister it then the lease company re-register? Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff