Airbus A380

[HoHoHo]

HenryJM said:

There's an argument towards smaller more frequent planes not larger ones that take forever to board and empty. (I can't stand A380s)

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.

Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

[HenryJM]

HoHoHo said:

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.

Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

Not necessarily different jobs, or at least not different distances.

[HoHoHo]

HenryJM said:

HoHoHo said:

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.

Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

Not necessarily different jobs, or at least not different distances.

I can't remember the exact details but I seem to remember when the two companies were designing their aircraft they had different ideas how the public wanted to fly, hence the aircraft being different. One was short haul fewer passengers and one was long haul more passengers?

[anonymous-user]

HoHoHo said:

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.
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Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

Airbus think A350 and A330 and the A320 family. That's where their future is lies, not on the A380.

Boeing think 737 787 and 777x

It's all about the twin jets.

Edited by el stovey on Friday 12th December 20:36

[HoHoHo]

el stovey said:

HoHoHo said:

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.
D
Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

Airbus think A350 and A330 and the A320 family. That's where their future is lies, not on the A380.

Boeing think 737 787 and 777x

It's all about the twin jets.

Edited by el stovey on Friday 12th December 20:36

Ah, I'm not suggesting where the future is I'm talking about when they were being designed and the way the two manufacturers felt the way the market would go.

The A380 has always been judged against the 787 for that reason.

The 350 is a different beast and providing it doesn't catch fire will be a fine battle between the two companies.

[onyx39]

HoHoHo said:

HenryJM said:

HoHoHo said:

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.

Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

Not necessarily different jobs, or at least not different distances.

I can't remember the exact details but I seem to remember when the two companies were designing their aircraft they had different ideas how the public wanted to fly, hence the aircraft being different. One was short haul fewer passengers and one was long haul more passengers?

Hubs vs direct.
A380 you would fly for example LHR - JFK, and catch onward flights.
787 you would fly direct.

[Mojocvh]

Who was it who said no "plan survives contact with the beancounters"

[HoHoHo]

onyx39 said:

HoHoHo said:

HenryJM said:

HoHoHo said:

The argument is simply how the public will travel and what aircraft is required.

Boeing think 787

Airbus think A380

Different aircraft for different jobs.

Not necessarily different jobs, or at least not different distances.

I can't remember the exact details but I seem to remember when the two companies were designing their aircraft they had different ideas how the public wanted to fly, hence the aircraft being different. One was short haul fewer passengers and one was long haul more passengers?

Hubs vs direct.
A380 you would fly for example LHR - JFK, and catch onward flights.
787 you would fly direct.

Thanks.

Personally having flown on an A380 many, many times I love the aircraft.

I"ve never been lucky enough to travel anything other than cattle but even at the back it's simply brilliant. It looks like my frequent trips to Dubai are currently over for a while which is a shame as I had saved enough points to turn left rather than right for my next flight

[HenryJM]

HoHoHo said:

Thanks.

Personally having flown on an A380 many, many times I love the aircraft.

I"ve never been lucky enough to travel anything other than cattle but even at the back it's simply brilliant. It looks like my frequent trips to Dubai are currently over for a while which is a shame as I had saved enough points to turn left rather than right for my next flight

Outside cattle it's not brilliant, when there are 70 or 80 other people travelling business many of the benefits go with it as well as the time it takes to do anything.

[Mojocvh]

Had Aus mojo's visit this year first time on 380 previous 2 on 747

They once again affirmed that the journey sucked which I can understand having once hopped from Brize to Eilsen it ain't fun at all even in a widebody cargo timmy

AUS Jnr mojo commented on the mood lighting and how quiet it was, both adult AUS mojo's said that they didn't notice the mood lighting to which Jnr pointed out they were both snoring at the time.
I guess that being stuck on 12 hour plus legs will not be that entertaining no matter the airframe but the subtle difference in 30 plus years engineering advancements makes a difference in how the body reacts to the exposure...

[smack]

Mojocvh said:

Had Aus mojo's visit this year first time on 380 previous 2 on 747

They once again affirmed that the journey sucked which I can understand having once hopped from Brize to Eilsen it ain't fun at all even in a widebody cargo timmy

I was booked to do the half return leg of AUS-UK on an A380, but date changes left me with 777-300ER/747 instead as that was all that was left. But regardless 24 hours flying does indeed suck, even in business. And the only way I get through it is booze and sleeping pills.

[brenflys777]

A380 greeting the dawn over Mongolia yesterday

[Kenty]

I've flown A380 many times, both economy and business and they are an extremely likeable way to travel. With only 76 in business I have never found a problem - Out first, luggage first, fantastic service and comfort. Flying economy is all about getting the right seat, but really are you in so much of a hurry a bit of waiting is so much of a hardship?
The air and lighting is so much better ( the cabin pressure is at 8000feet rather than 11000 and what a difference it makes!)
I like hub to hub, it just sees to make sense to me.

[anonymous-user]

Kenty said:

The air and lighting is so much better ( the cabin pressure is at 8000feet rather than 11000 and what a difference it makes!)

I think your figures need some work.

[Jim Campbell]

brenflys777 said:

A380 greeting the dawn over Mongolia yesterday

Do you fly the big bus now? If so, can you tell us if you prefer it to the 777 please?

[onyx39]

Jim Campbell said:

brenflys777 said:

A380 greeting the dawn over Mongolia yesterday

Do you fly the big bus now? If so, can you tell us if you prefer it to the 777 please?

I'm gonna assume he was A passenger, otherwise he would have posted a shot out of the cockpit window?

[HoHoHo]

onyx39 said:

Jim Campbell said:

brenflys777 said:

A380 greeting the dawn over Mongolia yesterday

Do you fly the big bus now? If so, can you tell us if you prefer it to the 777 please?

I'm gonna assume he was A passenger, otherwise he would have posted a shot out of the cockpit window?

There's data in that picture which would suggest it's taken in the cockpit

[onyx39]

HoHoHo said:

onyx39 said:

Jim Campbell said:

brenflys777 said:

A380 greeting the dawn over Mongolia yesterday

Do you fly the big bus now? If so, can you tell us if you prefer it to the 777 please?

I'm gonna assume he was A passenger, otherwise he would have posted a shot out of the cockpit window?

There's data in that picture which would suggest it's taken in the cockpit

ah ok, I stand corrected. Not been lucky enough to see one of these screens yet.

[brenflys777]

The 777 is an incredibly efficient aeroplane that's easy and pleasant to fly regardless of the conditions. The A380 is just amazing in terms of performance available for the sheer size, it's fun to fly but presents a more challenging aircraft to operate. Both are great at what they do, but the lower noise levels and cabin altitude seem to leave most passengers preferring the big bus. As a piece of engineering the 380 is absolutely remarkable IMO.

[CAPP0]

How many 4-jet planes are regularly flying, other than the A380 and the 747?