Canadian Lancaster to visit the UK
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Yes, fingers crossed we'll get both Lancs at Gransden this year. www.littlegransdenshow.co.uk for those interested (it's a car show too, PHers...)
Sywell Airshow - www.sywellairshow.co.uk - will also try and get both bombers. Wish us luck...
Sywell Airshow - www.sywellairshow.co.uk - will also try and get both bombers. Wish us luck...
DamienB said:
Sywell Airshow - www.sywellairshow.co.uk - will also try and get both bombers. Wish us luck...
Thanks for that, haven't heard of that one before. It's in the diary now.May display the car there, too.
ash73 said:
Yes but their day was 70 years ago, and there aren't many left.
The Lanc doesn't know it was 70 years ago. It was designed to travel the distance, and the passage of time makes no difference its range over the years. It benefits now from more maintenance per flying hour than a wartime example. The navigation aids and radios (currently being installed into the aircraft) are way better than 70 years ago. Lastly, they're not trying to push the aircraft into doing a large distance all in one go, they're going the same Northern route used hundreds of time by other warbirds, even recently.CWH will have been over the risks to their Lancaster and crew in detail before even contemplating the trip. To suggest that its irresponsible is discrediting a very professional organisation.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/hile not showing the Canadian Lanc shows, here is the BBMF season:
Mutley said:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/hile not showing the Canadian Lanc shows, here is the BBMF season:
Think you meanhttp://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/
Looks like Blackpool is to early to for any chance to see the Canadian Lanc (only arrives in the country a couple of days before). Wonder if it will be at Southport as the BBMF usually bases itself at Blackpool airport that weekend.
Russ35 said:
Mutley said:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/hile not showing the Canadian Lanc shows, here is the BBMF season:
Think you meanhttp://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/
Looks like Blackpool is to early to for any chance to see the Canadian Lanc (only arrives in the country a couple of days before). Wonder if it will be at Southport as the BBMF usually bases itself at Blackpool airport that weekend.
Dont forget the first week theyre here will be maintenance and acclimatisation
richw_82 said:
The Lanc doesn't know it was 70 years ago. It was designed to travel the distance, and the passage of time makes no difference its range over the years. It benefits now from more maintenance per flying hour than a wartime example. The navigation aids and radios (currently being installed into the aircraft) are way better than 70 years ago. Lastly, they're not trying to push the aircraft into doing a large distance all in one go, they're going the same Northern route used hundreds of time by other warbirds, even recently.
CWH will have been over the risks to their Lancaster and crew in detail before even contemplating the trip. To suggest that its irresponsible is discrediting a very professional organisation.
+1CWH will have been over the risks to their Lancaster and crew in detail before even contemplating the trip. To suggest that its irresponsible is discrediting a very professional organisation.
The French and Canadians were using Lancasters for Maritime patrol into the 1960s, and P51 Mustangs have flown the Atlantic in recent years.
Eric Mc said:
ash73 said:
Seems a bit irresponsible to fly her all that way, imo.
Why can't she.Lancasters and Lancastrians regularly flew long flights over oceans in their day. Both the French and the British used Lancasters as ocean patrol aircraft.
Which they did - on occasions.
Whatever about the Shackleton, the Lancaster itself was used extensively post war by the RAF, the RCAF and the Aeronavale as a maritime reconnaissance aircraft - so it was well used to being used on long overwater missions.
Indeed, it is its use post war in this role that ensured that a number survived for preservation.
Whatever about the Shackleton, the Lancaster itself was used extensively post war by the RAF, the RCAF and the Aeronavale as a maritime reconnaissance aircraft - so it was well used to being used on long overwater missions.
Indeed, it is its use post war in this role that ensured that a number survived for preservation.
GC8 said:
Developed from the Lincoln I think, but I believe that the Lincoln was a late Lancaster.
Certainly different, but you kind of know what I mean Im sure.
Lincoln Mk I and II were originally called Lancaster MK IV and MK V.Certainly different, but you kind of know what I mean Im sure.
Shackleton was originally called the Lincoln Mk 3.
So effectively a Shackleton is a Lancaster Mk VI. (There was also a Lancaster Mk VI but that's not the point.)
I suspect a Shackleton has about as much in common with a Lancaster as a Spitfire Mk 22 has with a Mk 1.
Eric Mc said:
Aircraft evolve.
The standard wartime Lancaster (the MkI and III) had different wings, fuselage and engines to a Shackleton.
Other than that, they are identical.
But the point is that there is a big difference between 'evolving' and a completely new aircraft. You could equally say that a late Spitfire had a 'different wing, fuselage, engine and tail to a Mk1 otherwise they are identical'.The standard wartime Lancaster (the MkI and III) had different wings, fuselage and engines to a Shackleton.
Other than that, they are identical.
The Shackleton/Lincoln wing was a modified version of the Lancaster wing, not completely new, and the Shackleton would never have existed without the Manchester/Lancaster/Lincoln, nobody is claiming they were identical.
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