Farnborough 2014 - Anyone on here going?

Farnborough 2014 - Anyone on here going?

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Far Cough

2,226 posts

168 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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anonymous said:
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Confirmed by Red10 that it was turbulence from jet in front. Not birds !

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I think my memory is wanting it to be a red arrow at the time. Memory is not always a good recorder. What else would be red around 77? I know it was a gnat and it was having fun.

ecsrobin

17,116 posts

165 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
A guy who has personally restored to airworthy condition a 1950s Hawker Hunter jet fighter. He flies it as his personal aircraft and he told me the difficulty he had in getting the Royal Navy colour scheme just right. I gave him a few contacts in the modelling fraternity who might be able to help him regarding colour schemes. He was really grateful

The lads from Classic Jets who are based at Newquay and Coventry and were displaying a Canberra, a Vampire, a Gloster Meteor and also had in the static park a Jet Provost and a Gnat.
Paint jobs are extremely hard for classic aircraft as everyone thinks they know best. I certainly remember a spitfire being painted in the correct paint and all the spotters forums suddenly complaining it was the wrong shade, who's right though if all you've got is someone who saw it years ago or books and old photos potentially?

The canberra is operated my midair squadron who are based at Kemble.

The gnat on display was from the gnat display team that are based at north Weald.

Eric Mc

122,003 posts

265 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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jmorgan said:
I think my memory is wanting it to be a red arrow at the time. Memory is not always a good recorder. What else would be red around 77? I know it was a gnat and it was having fun.
I thought you were talking about the weekend just passed and it was a privately owned Gnat.

Back in 1977 the Reds were still flying the Gnats (they changed to Hawks for the 1980 season).

Eric Mc

122,003 posts

265 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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ecsrobin said:
Paint jobs are extremely hard for classic aircraft as everyone thinks they know best. I certainly remember a spitfire being painted in the correct paint and all the spotters forums suddenly complaining it was the wrong shade, who's right though if all you've got is someone who saw it years ago or books and old photos potentially?

The canberra is operated my midair squadron who are based at Kemble.

The gnat on display was from the gnat display team that are based at north Weald.
Sometimes the records regarding "old" colours are quite good - sometimes they are skimpy and unclear. The closer you get to the present day the better it gets - although if you look at Charles E Browns excellent colour photos taken in the 1940s you are getting a pretty good rendition of British colours in use at that time.
His photos of the Spitfire RF-D are well known and a real benchmark for that ocean grey/dark green./medium grey scheme. He also took a great sequence of colour shots of a Westland Whirlwind.

This chap restored the Hunter to its 1962 Royal Navy scheme and it looks like he has done an excellent job. It looked just right.


jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
jmorgan said:
I think my memory is wanting it to be a red arrow at the time. Memory is not always a good recorder. What else would be red around 77? I know it was a gnat and it was having fun.
I thought you were talking about the weekend just passed and it was a privately owned Gnat.

Back in 1977 the Reds were still flying the Gnats (they changed to Hawks for the 1980 season).
I am confusing the issue now. Yep, I was on about 77 but my memory wants it to be a Red Arrow, it was a red Gnat, what else would be red in them days? Trainers?

Eric Mc

122,003 posts

265 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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The standard trainer colours from the 1970s through to the early 90s were red and white fuselage with grey and white wings -










jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I was thinking of the Provost red and white for a trainer after seeing one below me when I was up in the mountains in N Wales, this one at St Athan was all red. If it had happened today we all would have had iPhones on it.

Edit. Heck, had enough flights in the Chipmonk as well.

yellowjack

17,076 posts

166 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
The Farnborough example was in Yellowjacks livery.
wavey




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What did I see this afternoon, about 1340hrs? Something massive with a high mounted tailplane, heading broadly east, it appeared to be in the circuit to land on runway 24. IL-76? Is it here to collect stuff that was on exhibit?

Edited by yellowjack on Monday 21st July 15:02

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

226 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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sanguinary said:
We stayed until the end of the show. - I was a little sad that so many people left before the Spitfire had finished displaying.
I was on the balcony at the media centre and couldn't believe the numbers leaving DURING the Red Arrows so they also missed the Typhoon and Spitfire.

If I was the organisers a strongly worded letter to the Met Office may be in order.
They must have miised out on 1000's more through the gate because of the forecast.
How could it have been so wrong especially for the afternoon.
We were sitting outside until 10:30 that evening at my B in L's which is only 10 mins walk from the footbridge entrance.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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We stayed to the end and would have walked around some but were told to get out by 7 or we would be locked in until 2016.

Eric Mc

122,003 posts

265 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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There was a bit of a scrum getting out of the main gate (near the footbridge). I've never seen it so packed.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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yellowjack said:
Eric Mc said:
The Farnborough example was in Yellowjacks livery.
wavey




wink


What did I see this afternoon, about 1340hrs? Something massive with a high mounted tailplane, heading broadly east, it appeared to be in the circuit to land on runway 24. IL-76? Is it here to collect stuff that was on exhibit?

Edited by yellowjack on Monday 21st July 15:02
I love the Gnat.

It is SO SMALL !!! I can imagine that being strapped into a Gnat must be a pilots dream. The plane is so tiny it must feel like an extension of the body.

Eric Mc

122,003 posts

265 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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It also had a phenomenal rate of roll - much more rapid than the Hawk.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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toppstuff said:
I love the Gnat.

It is SO SMALL !!! I can imagine that being strapped into a Gnat must be a pilots dream. The plane is so tiny it must feel like an extension of the body.
+1

One for the 'classics dwarved by moderns' thread.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Thought it was a good show, I went mainly to see the Meteor & Vampire, seen them down at Newquay a few times (well worth a visit).

RIAT, being run for charity, tends to go out to military air arms and see what it can get. Military assets are usually free or very low cost, which is why you don't see expensive to book classic jets appearing at RIAT that often.












Eric Mc

122,003 posts

265 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Great pictures. I was standing off to the right.

SydneyBridge

8,587 posts

158 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Chap from Farnborough on local news says bookings for two years time are up 1000% on this year, and he would to see the Vulcan based there when she can no longer can fly

Qwert1e

545 posts

118 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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anonymous said:
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Great pics. Never imagined I'd see either of those things flying in real life. Getting inside the Breitling Super Constellation felt like getting on the set of an old Indiana Jones film!!

BrabusMog

20,145 posts

186 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Am I the only one who is going to admit to really enjoying the wingwalkers and A380?!