F35's cleared for flight!!

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FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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saaby93 said:
Says no here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28291924
Whats the silvery thing above the cockpit?
Sunroof?

Air-brake?

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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saaby93 said:
Says no here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28291924
Whats the silvery thing above the cockpit?
The upper lift fan door.
ETA: the lower ones can be seen behind the front under carriage but wider than its doors.

FourWheelDrift

88,504 posts

284 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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That's the cover lifted up on the cold air lift fan.


Sixpackpert

4,557 posts

214 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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saaby93 said:
Says no here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28291924
Whats the silvery thing above the cockpit?
Lift Fan cover.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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oh. Completely different design to Harrier

How long before they forget to close one before exiting hover?

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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saaby93 said:
oh. Completely different design to Harrier

How long before they forget to close one before exiting hover?
The computer deals with all that automatically, the pilot just sets the speed. The nozzle at the back also rotates 90degrees down to balance it with a clutch between the two. If it goes wrong the computer than also selects eject. One of the issues with the test flying was that the bar that holds it up wasn't strong enough to stop it breaking off/bending as they miscalculated the sir flows around there slightly.

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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saaby93 said:
oh. Completely different design to Harrier

How long before they forget to close one before exiting hover?
"Different to the harrier" Might as well say its different to a Saturn5 :-)

Check out of the Youtube videos the "sunroof" can stay open in flight where the cold air lift fan is in use, not just hovering- I imagine some kind of electrical jiggery pokery opens and closes them all as required.... probably the least of their concerns right now with all manner of gremlins keeping them grounded in the majority.

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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mcdjl said:
saaby93 said:
Says no here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28291924
Whats the silvery thing above the cockpit?
The upper lift fan door.
Commonly referred to as the wheelie-bin door......for obvious reasons hehe




Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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aeropilot said:
mcdjl said:
saaby93 said:
Says no here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28291924
Whats the silvery thing above the cockpit?
The upper lift fan door.
Commonly referred to as the wheelie-bin door......for obvious reasons hehe

Commonly refered to by who? First I've heard that one?

(and seeing as they don't have wheelie bins in the USA I'm guessing that's just been made up... a few minutes ago wink )

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Civpilot said:
aeropilot said:
mcdjl said:
saaby93 said:
Says no here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28291924
Whats the silvery thing above the cockpit?
The upper lift fan door.
Commonly referred to as the wheelie-bin door......for obvious reasons hehe

Commonly refered to by who? First I've heard that one?

(and seeing as they don't have wheelie bins in the USA I'm guessing that's just been made up... a few minutes ago wink )
You guessed wrong wink

The same bunch of current and ex-light blue and dark blue that christened the thing Dave some years back also christened it the wheelie-bin door - again some years back.



mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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aeropilot said:
You guessed wrong wink

The same bunch of current and ex-light blue and dark blue that christened the thing Dave some years back also christened it the wheelie-bin door - again some years back.
How/why did they come up with Dave?

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,120 posts

150 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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mcdjl said:
aeropilot said:
You guessed wrong wink

The same bunch of current and ex-light blue and dark blue that christened the thing Dave some years back also christened it the wheelie-bin door - again some years back.
How/why did they come up with Dave?
Anything to do with this guy?

http://fightercountry.org/news/f-35-news/new-f-35-...

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

184 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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mcdjl said:
If it goes wrong the computer than also selects eject.
I wouldn't want some computer(s) deciding to eject me from my a/c!

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,120 posts

150 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
mcdjl said:
If it goes wrong the computer than also selects eject.
I wouldn't want some computer(s) deciding to eject me from my a/c!
Computers flying planes is perfectly safe... what could possibly go wrong?

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+aircra...

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Were messrs Heath and Robinson involved in this flappy thing?
If the fan comes on first does it suck it closed?
Whats wrong with a slidey cover design like on a cockpit

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
I wouldn't want some computer(s) deciding to eject me from my a/c!
Could you eject from yuor aircraft? To be fair i think that only applied in the hover- if either blowy thing goes wrong the aircraft is upside down in under a second and they decided the pilot would find that uncomfortable and hard to deal with. Thats what a test pilot said anyway.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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It's hardly an elegant solution (the lift fan door) but as others have said it's the least of the F35s problems at the moment.

FourWheelDrift

88,504 posts

284 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Successful vertical landing, working at last.


fadeaway

1,463 posts

226 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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mcdjl said:
the pilot would find that uncomfortable and hard to deal with
nicely put!

rofl

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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onyx39 said:
mcdjl said:
aeropilot said:
You guessed wrong wink

The same bunch of current and ex-light blue and dark blue that christened the thing Dave some years back also christened it the wheelie-bin door - again some years back.
How/why did they come up with Dave?
Anything to do with this guy?

http://fightercountry.org/news/f-35-news/new-f-35-...
No, it's goes back waaaaay longer than that.

Took a while to find again as didn't realise it was so long ago.....just goes to show how long we've been waiting for this white elephant to materialise.

Here's the light hearted naming thread from 8 (yes that's eight!) years ago.....

http://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/226765-nam...