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I work for AIRBUS at its Broughton plant as a fitter on A320 family aircraft, I have had a number of apprentices with me over the years and all have gone on to have great careers with the company, opportunities with the company are very good, my last apprentice spent 6 months in Dubai working on A380 rib foot mods then went straight to Toulouse to work on the initial A350 flight test programme. Various options are available for applicants depending on exam results and previous experiance/knowledge.
http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/people-careers/a...
EDIT Sorry just noticed application process has closed for this year
http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/people-careers/a...
EDIT Sorry just noticed application process has closed for this year
Edited by chris190vvti on Sunday 12th June 23:46
He has done the interview and hands on metalwork test, seemed happy with how it went, he put a lot of effort into preparation, got references, took examples from his work experience there, portfolio of stuff.
Apparently 18 or so candidates for six roles, not fantastic odds but whatever happens he has given it his all.
Should know by the end of the week, I am more nervous for him than when I go for an interview.
Apparently 18 or so candidates for six roles, not fantastic odds but whatever happens he has given it his all.
Should know by the end of the week, I am more nervous for him than when I go for an interview.
Apprenticeships occasionally pop-up here too if you keep your eyes peeled http://www.jobsinaviation.com/jobs/aviation/aircra...
Oceanic said:
Apprenticeships occasionally pop-up here too if you keep your eyes peeled http://www.jobsinaviation.com/jobs/aviation/aircra...
Cheers, will pass that on to him, we are still waiting for the outcome, it is stressful !Well, a happy ending, he was notified earlier that he has got the apprenticeship he went for, from over 120 that did the assessment, whittled down to 18 for the six places.
So so pleased, he put his all into it and got what he wanted, many thanks to all for all the advice given.
Looking back, I know the course wasn't perhaps the best way in but it did given him some skills and knowledge he applied to get the place, sort of readied him where he might not have been otherwise, the real journey starts in September.
Can calm down now !
So so pleased, he put his all into it and got what he wanted, many thanks to all for all the advice given.
Looking back, I know the course wasn't perhaps the best way in but it did given him some skills and knowledge he applied to get the place, sort of readied him where he might not have been otherwise, the real journey starts in September.
Can calm down now !
Great news, I just came here to post this but he's all sorted!
http://tuijobsuk.co.uk/job-details.php?nPostingTar...
http://tuijobsuk.co.uk/job-details.php?nPostingTar...
ecsrobin said:
Great news, I just came here to post this but he's all sorted!
http://tuijobsuk.co.uk/job-details.php?nPostingTar...
Thanks, very grateful to you for taking the trouble to think about this and post, I have messaged him with it to pass on to any of his mates at college.http://tuijobsuk.co.uk/job-details.php?nPostingTar...
He messaged back he just wants the summer to be over now so he can start, he is going to buy his own car (uses our C1 at the mo) so will save up from his shop job and get something, has a holiday with his girlfriend and mates to look forward to as well.
Good news, these are really tough odds these days. Just make sure he knuckles down and sees it through, I've seen a few kicked off courses, as many for immaturity as poor ability - hopefully the time spent on the prior course has given him a couple of years advantage on his peers in this respect. Once you get the smell of burnt Jet A-1 in your nostrils you're hooked.
Speed 3 said:
Good news, these are really tough odds these days. Just make sure he knuckles down and sees it through, I've seen a few kicked off courses, as many for immaturity as poor ability - hopefully the time spent on the prior course has given him a couple of years advantage on his peers in this respect. Once you get the smell of burnt Jet A-1 in your nostrils you're hooked.
Cheers, he is a grafter and keen to learn, good head on his shoulders, no worries in that respect, when he did the work experience there they had to kick him out at the end of the day, came back full of it. He has been juggling college, girlfriend and 25 hours a week work, very little downtime.He knows how valuable what he has got is, so nice for my dad as well, he is an engineer and showed my lad the metalwork skills from his time as an apprentice.
Mooched into this thread, my son finishes his 5 years this September, he went to uni, doing automotive engineering, packed that in after two years and got an apprenticeship, 25 places,2000 applicants for that year, with GE Avionics.
He repairs and maintains commercial jet engines, strips them down to bits then rebuilds them.
I have been on two plant tours, it is mind boggling to anyone not involved with the industry.
His plan come September is to do what they call on wing, based in Dubai.To me it sounds like a glorified RAC man, flying round the world diagnosing faults and then repairing if possible without taking the engine off the aircraft.
Wages become very good at this level, he had his first licence after three years, and gets his final after five.
Funnily enough, when doing his time, cakes and biscuits were mandatory on a Friday.
Hope your boy loves it, mine does.
He repairs and maintains commercial jet engines, strips them down to bits then rebuilds them.
I have been on two plant tours, it is mind boggling to anyone not involved with the industry.
His plan come September is to do what they call on wing, based in Dubai.To me it sounds like a glorified RAC man, flying round the world diagnosing faults and then repairing if possible without taking the engine off the aircraft.
Wages become very good at this level, he had his first licence after three years, and gets his final after five.
Funnily enough, when doing his time, cakes and biscuits were mandatory on a Friday.
Hope your boy loves it, mine does.
zoom star said:
Mooched into this thread, my son finishes his 5 years this September, he went to uni, doing automotive engineering, packed that in after two years and got an apprenticeship, 25 places,2000 applicants for that year, with GE Avionics.
He repairs and maintains commercial jet engines, strips them down to bits then rebuilds them.
I have been on two plant tours, it is mind boggling to anyone not involved with the industry.
His plan come September is to do what they call on wing, based in Dubai.To me it sounds like a glorified RAC man, flying round the world diagnosing faults and then repairing if possible without taking the engine off the aircraft.
Wages become very good at this level, he had his first licence after three years, and gets his final after five.
Funnily enough, when doing his time, cakes and biscuits were mandatory on a Friday.
Hope your boy loves it, mine does.
Wow, 2000 applicants, anything aviation seems massively over subscribed, 2000 for 25 jobs is amazingly long odds.He repairs and maintains commercial jet engines, strips them down to bits then rebuilds them.
I have been on two plant tours, it is mind boggling to anyone not involved with the industry.
His plan come September is to do what they call on wing, based in Dubai.To me it sounds like a glorified RAC man, flying round the world diagnosing faults and then repairing if possible without taking the engine off the aircraft.
Wages become very good at this level, he had his first licence after three years, and gets his final after five.
Funnily enough, when doing his time, cakes and biscuits were mandatory on a Friday.
Hope your boy loves it, mine does.
Others have said that the workforce that does this kind of work is aging and vacancies are hard to fill, the airlines and manufacturers do their bit but without an apprenticeship it seems almost impossible to get into, seems like there has been a lack of people coming into the industry, plenty want to do it but it is so competetive, our lads were lucky (and more than a little bit of being suitable candidates of course) but it must only be a couple of hundred apprenticeships available nationwide.
Are there any other routes in, thinking that this thread may get spotted by other hopefuls so would be nice to give them some other routes, other than an apprenticeship as there will be loads of good candidates that dont make the cut.
Is there any other ways in ?
Can you self study for a license ?
It's an interesting subject. Aviation has acknowledged for a long time that there will be a skills shortage as the oldies/ex-mil retire off or dry up but short term cost considerations in a very slim margin business prevent anyone being bold. They take the view that the time & cost concerned with no guarantee of not jumping ship at the end (hence bonding) isn't worth the hassle. A bit of a Catch-22 that will catch the industry out eventually. What it means is those qualified (hopefully like your sons) will benefit form high demand and hence high wages. It always puzzles me that airlines will sponsor pilot schemes at hugely higher cost but not really invest in E&M. The other isssue is the authorities are requiring ever higher academic qualificaton when in reality, like cars, the days of requiring really deep Engineering skills are past. These days it's plug & play / auto fault diagnosis / procedural, at the operating sharp end anyway (as opposed to design). Deep Base Maintenance has also changed as maintenance programs have evolved and the days of D checks with complex repair tasks are largely over.
Self-qualify is not really done in EASA land as the licences, whilst achieved & held by individuals, are only really valid in a structured Part 145 MRO organisation and are subject to a significant amount of on-job training (OJT). The US is slightly different whereby an A&P licence allows you to do some things independently but those two regulatory systems have been converging for a number of years and that doesn't make any difference until you are qualified.
Self-qualify is not really done in EASA land as the licences, whilst achieved & held by individuals, are only really valid in a structured Part 145 MRO organisation and are subject to a significant amount of on-job training (OJT). The US is slightly different whereby an A&P licence allows you to do some things independently but those two regulatory systems have been converging for a number of years and that doesn't make any difference until you are qualified.
Several new training centres have opened or are in the pipeline.
The shortage seems strange considering the number of job losses from BAe. The forces are so small these days that the number they supply is very small.
Skilled, competent and experienced people are hard to get these days, and even harder if you want a sheety.
The shortage seems strange considering the number of job losses from BAe. The forces are so small these days that the number they supply is very small.
Skilled, competent and experienced people are hard to get these days, and even harder if you want a sheety.
eccles said:
Several new training centres have opened or are in the pipeline.
The shortage seems strange considering the number of job losses from BAe. The forces are so small these days that the number they supply is very small.
Skilled, competent and experienced people are hard to get these days, and even harder if you want a sheety.
Is a "Sheety" someone who works Aluminium, i.e. for the fuselage ?The shortage seems strange considering the number of job losses from BAe. The forces are so small these days that the number they supply is very small.
Skilled, competent and experienced people are hard to get these days, and even harder if you want a sheety.
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