Akula/Typhoon Class

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stevesingo

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4,848 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Stumbled across this...

http://imgur.com/a/xi3P3

Quite something

wildman0609

885 posts

175 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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awesome,

Felt quite sad to see them scrapped at the end of the article though.

StephenP

1,886 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Really interesting and a great find!

Satellite photo of the pair mothballed in Severodvinsk....
http://goo.gl/maps/n4pGL

T66ORA

3,474 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Great find thanks for sharing.

This looks like the Russia version on a British manoeuvring room, spent many a month in there, 2 knots 200 feet. sleep


Raoul Duke

929 posts

162 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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That was fascinating, thanks for sharing!
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strudel

5,888 posts

226 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Wow they're big, bigger than I expected! I'd love to have a nosey around one.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Quite an engineering achievement. The authors view on Soviet submarine capabilities at the end of the cold war is also quite a departure from the accepted norm.

Hooli

32,278 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I like Soviet engineering, it's properly old School like the Vulcan etc. Modern western stuff doesn't seem as real somehow.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

197 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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T66ORA said:
Great find thanks for sharing.

This looks like the Russia version on a British manoeuvring room, spent many a month in there, 2 knots 200 feet. sleep

Front ? biggrin

Godalmighty83

417 posts

253 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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So massive and advanced they crippled the Soviet Union with their immense price tag.

Can you imagine a Royal Navy admiral proposing a 50kt Battleship built from titanium and then a politician saying 'no, one wont do, build six'.

twister

1,450 posts

235 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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Fascinating read, but also a reminder of how much time has passed since the "good old days" of the cold war - as an 80's teen with an interest in wargaming, military sims etc, following the latest NATO and Warsaw Pact developments were as much a part of my childhood as playing football and making mix tapes from the top 40 each weekend, so to read about these near mythical beasts now being good only for the scrapheap makes me feel old...

tobinen

9,184 posts

144 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Good read. The scale becomes apparent with the guys standing at the rear of it between the screws.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Bronze screws would have some value down at the scrappy metal recycling centre.

Does Russia have the capability to decommission the reactors?

Hooli

32,278 posts

199 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
Does Russia have the capability to decommission the reactors?
I think I've read they've got them all stored safely outdoors, by the sea up in an arctic port somewhere.

hidetheelephants

23,772 posts

192 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Hooli said:
V8 Fettler said:
Does Russia have the capability to decommission the reactors?
I think I've read they've got them all stored safely outdoors, by the sea up in an arctic port somewhere.
Several ones they just cut them out and dumped them in the sea, although that was back in the cold war.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Godalmighty83 said:
So massive and advanced they crippled the Soviet Union with their immense price tag.

Can you imagine a Royal Navy admiral proposing a 50kt Battleship built from titanium and then a politician saying 'no, one wont do, build six'.
Wrong sub. The Alphas was the Ti hulled, lead-biz NSRP powered, small interceptor SSNs. Typhoons were bombers and made of steel IIRC and they didn't do anywhere near 50kts.

The lead-biz design was a total disaster though as it required massive shore side services to stop the plant freezing when it was shutdown.

Alphas cost the UK a lot of money as the Spearfish torp was born out of fears of the Alpha being untouchable by the period weapon systems. Think the US ran a similar torp programme too.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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rhinochopig said:
Godalmighty83 said:
So massive and advanced they crippled the Soviet Union with their immense price tag.

Can you imagine a Royal Navy admiral proposing a 50kt Battleship built from titanium and then a politician saying 'no, one wont do, build six'.
Wrong sub. The Alphas was the Ti hulled, lead-biz NSRP powered, small interceptor SSNs. Typhoons were bombers and made of steel IIRC and they didn't do anywhere near 50kts.

The lead-biz design was a total disaster though as it required massive shore side services to stop the plant freezing when it was shutdown.

Alphas cost the UK a lot of money as the Spearfish torp was born out of fears of the Alpha being untouchable by the period weapon systems. Think the US ran a similar torp programme too.
It's Alfa, you know how important that is on here.

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Great find, great read, really interesting. Ta.

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The text covers the confusion, but these were Typhoon class SSBN's. The Akula class were SSN's and folklore has it the real seed for the hunt for the Red October film/ book.

hidetheelephants

23,772 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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rhinochopig said:
Wrong sub. The Alphas was the Ti hulled, lead-biz NSRP powered, small interceptor SSNs. Typhoons were bombers and made of steel IIRC and they didn't do anywhere near 50kts.

The lead-biz design was a total disaster though as it required massive shore side services to stop the plant freezing when it was shutdown.

Alphas cost the UK a lot of money as the Spearfish torp was born out of fears of the Alpha being untouchable by the period weapon systems. Think the US ran a similar torp programme too.
The US had the ADCAP programme for the Mk48, for extra speed, better sensors etc.