How much boat is required.?

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blueg33

35,808 posts

224 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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itannum990 said:


How the fk did he manage that?!
Narrow channel at Lymington, no room for ferry to avoid, muppet forgot to allow for windage when manourvering onto his mooring. Drifted into the path of the ferry. I suppose that technically the ferry hit him. Dad said there was 1 man overboard and some significant damage to the boat. Not a mark on the ferry!

blueg33

35,808 posts

224 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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TTwiggy said:
They can be great fun at dinghy size, but the big ones tack about as well as a square-rigger wink
The answer is gybe, keep the power on for longer. Still a long way round though!

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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V8 FOU said:
Most large ish 30ft+ say, will do about 1 or 2mpg. The real problem is that running on red diesel, at £1 per litre or less, is only usable in the UK. If you venture into Europe, especially Holland or Belgium, you WILL be fined. France has a bit more laissez - faire. Also remember, it takes around 2000 litres of white to remove all traces of red.

They key to any boat adventures is training and experience. I would suggest that your first couple of long passages are done with someone who has experience - there are plenty of people who do this for a living.

The flat-bottomed boat above? Keep to rivers and coastal. Especially with those old engines.
hehe I used to have a Fairline Targa 27 with twin V8 Mercruisers. Flat out at 46kts, it was doing 3GPM...

Roverload

850 posts

136 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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schmalex said:
V8 FOU said:
Most large ish 30ft+ say, will do about 1 or 2mpg. The real problem is that running on red diesel, at £1 per litre or less, is only usable in the UK. If you venture into Europe, especially Holland or Belgium, you WILL be fined. France has a bit more laissez - faire. Also remember, it takes around 2000 litres of white to remove all traces of red.

They key to any boat adventures is training and experience. I would suggest that your first couple of long passages are done with someone who has experience - there are plenty of people who do this for a living.

The flat-bottomed boat above? Keep to rivers and coastal. Especially with those old engines.
hehe I used to have a Fairline Targa 27 with twin V8 Mercruisers. Flat out at 46kts, it was doing 3GPM...
GPM? Please say that was a typo! You must have been constantly broke!

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Roverload said:
schmalex said:
V8 FOU said:
Most large ish 30ft+ say, will do about 1 or 2mpg. The real problem is that running on red diesel, at £1 per litre or less, is only usable in the UK. If you venture into Europe, especially Holland or Belgium, you WILL be fined. France has a bit more laissez - faire. Also remember, it takes around 2000 litres of white to remove all traces of red.

They key to any boat adventures is training and experience. I would suggest that your first couple of long passages are done with someone who has experience - there are plenty of people who do this for a living.

The flat-bottomed boat above? Keep to rivers and coastal. Especially with those old engines.
hehe I used to have a Fairline Targa 27 with twin V8 Mercruisers. Flat out at 46kts, it was doing 3GPM...
GPM? Please say that was a typo! You must have been constantly broke!
Nope. GPM. We didn't keep it long!

Roverload

850 posts

136 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Worth it for the time you had it?

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Ohgodyes

Doing the Needles to Cherbourg in 88 minutes for a dinner reservation on a Friday evening and then getting back to Lymington for 0200 was a particular highlight!!

It was a lovely boat and we very rarely maxed the performance. However, that said, as a yacht racer at heart, I did find the whole powerboat experience a little numb. With yachts, the pleasure is in the journey. With powerboats, the pleasure is in the destination.

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 9th September 22:16

Roverload

850 posts

136 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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That's a brilliant analogy, sounds like you got a taste of the way the other half live! Don't think mine would be capable enough, both in power and in the open sea but the idea of nipping over to scilly for dinner floats my boat as it were!

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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As I recall, there was a chap in Newquay a few years ago who planned to run a Nasty boat on the original Deltics as a fast small ferry to the Scillys and France. I understand that plans changed and the Deltics are now elsewhere

hidetheelephants

24,227 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
As I recall, there was a chap in Newquay a few years ago who planned to run a Nasty boat on the original Deltics as a fast small ferry to the Scillys and France. I understand that plans changed and the Deltics are now elsewhere
I could think of easier ways of going broke! Especially as RR are pretty much the only source of spares and advice for Napiers. He would have an easier, if not cheaper, time trying to run one of the gas turbine boats.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Steve Palk

Deltics have been removed.

http://www.picturepenzance.com/photos/showimage.ph...

V8 FOU

2,971 posts

147 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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schmalex said:
hehe I used to have a Fairline Targa 27 with twin V8 Mercruisers. Flat out at 46kts, it was doing 3GPM...
My Fairey Superswordsman 33' does around 1-2 nmpg at 20kts. At 30kts...... well it ain't any better. Slower speed helps so long as it's on the plane.
That is with 2 Ford Dorset/Sabre 245's in good condition.

I was speaking with a geezer in the marina a while ago who had just bought a Binliner with a SBC engine. I asked about fuel and he said, "well I've used £600 worth of petrol in the last month"! "Been far?" "Not really" EEEk!

Roverload

850 posts

136 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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V8 FOU said:
schmalex said:
hehe I used to have a Fairline Targa 27 with twin V8 Mercruisers. Flat out at 46kts, it was doing 3GPM...
My Fairey Superswordsman 33' does around 1-2 nmpg at 20kts. At 30kts...... well it ain't any better. Slower speed helps so long as it's on the plane.
That is with 2 Ford Dorset/Sabre 245's in good condition.

I was speaking with a geezer in the marina a while ago who had just bought a Binliner with a SBC engine. I asked about fuel and he said, "well I've used £600 worth of petrol in the last month"! "Been far?" "Not really" EEEk!
Just googled those two boats, beautiful boats chaps! Mine is a similar shape but unfortunately had it's 70's exterior styling edited somewhat during the 90's. Would love to get it looking that sleek again!




Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Roverload said:
Just googled those two boats, beautiful boats chaps! Mine is a similar shape but unfortunately had it's 70's exterior styling edited somewhat during the 90's. Would love to get it looking that sleek again!

Sorry but that is a horrible old nail

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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But with some imagination, it could look nice...

  • Awlgrip the top sides very dark blue
  • Paint the cabin white
  • Put some teak decks down
  • Remove the flybridge and turn it into more of a retro-targa type look
  • Get some good coats of varnish on the wood
  • Shine up the chrome
  • Not sure it's got one, but put a small, teak layed bathing platform on the transom
Keep it a little retro and I think it would look good.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Not too much work, only took my mate Jerry 5 hard years for his historic racer. wink







But he and his Dad do both work in a boatyard.

blueg33

35,808 posts

224 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Lost soul said:
Sorry but that is a horrible old nail
Disagree - okit looks pretty sad at the moment but its quite obviously a project. I have seen muchj worse restored to glory

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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There are some pretty boats on this thread, but I'd like one of these please:



Diesel, so very economical.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I used to live on the isle of wight and crewed the Cowes rescue inshore life boat

one of the most amusing things was watching under powered craft trying to get past the chain ferry as the tide was going out

guillemot

324 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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schmalex said:
Nope. GPM. We didn't keep it long!
Crikey - that made my eyes water! As a raggie, after a season's usage we've just topped her up for £30! biggrin