How much boat is required.?
Discussion
Lost soul said:
V8 FOU said:
Most large ish 30ft+ say, will do about 1 or 2mpg. The real problem is that running on red diesel, at £1 per litre or less, is only usable in the UK. If you venture into Europe, especially Holland or Belgium, you WILL be fined. France has a bit more laissez - faire. Also remember, it takes around 2000 litres of white to remove all traces of red.
They key to any boat adventures is training and experience. I would suggest that your first couple of long passages are done with someone who has experience - there are plenty of people who do this for a living.
The flat-bottomed boat above? Keep to rivers and coastal. Especially with those old engines.
don't forget diesel in France is much much cheaper than the UK , on a recent trip to France I paid £1.15 on the autoroute and about £1.04 in a small town They key to any boat adventures is training and experience. I would suggest that your first couple of long passages are done with someone who has experience - there are plenty of people who do this for a living.
The flat-bottomed boat above? Keep to rivers and coastal. Especially with those old engines.
And good luck getting a 40' sailboat in to the motorway services.
Fuel is the least of your worries with a sailing yacht.
Last year, marinas, new plotter, new outboard, anchor and safety kit etc, was c. £12000. Fuel for the season £500 (1200 miles).
This year, liferaft, marinas, odd bits, anti foul, etc. £6000. Fuel for the season £300 (600 miles).
If you're budgeting for fuel, you'll have a shock when the kit and storage bills come in!
Next year, saildrive leg needs overhauling, more paint, odd jobs here and there, I'm already at £4k and haven't started yet!
Last year, marinas, new plotter, new outboard, anchor and safety kit etc, was c. £12000. Fuel for the season £500 (1200 miles).
This year, liferaft, marinas, odd bits, anti foul, etc. £6000. Fuel for the season £300 (600 miles).
If you're budgeting for fuel, you'll have a shock when the kit and storage bills come in!
Next year, saildrive leg needs overhauling, more paint, odd jobs here and there, I'm already at £4k and haven't started yet!
maser_spyder said:
Fuel is the least of your worries with a sailing yacht.
Last year, marinas, new plotter, new outboard, anchor and safety kit etc, was c. £12000. Fuel for the season £500 (1200 miles).
This year, liferaft, marinas, odd bits, anti foul, etc. £6000. Fuel for the season £300 (600 miles).
If you're budgeting for fuel, you'll have a shock when the kit and storage bills come in!
Next year, saildrive leg needs overhauling, more paint, odd jobs here and there, I'm already at £4k and haven't started yet!
Boat is merely an acronym ... Bring Out Another Thousand. Last year, marinas, new plotter, new outboard, anchor and safety kit etc, was c. £12000. Fuel for the season £500 (1200 miles).
This year, liferaft, marinas, odd bits, anti foul, etc. £6000. Fuel for the season £300 (600 miles).
If you're budgeting for fuel, you'll have a shock when the kit and storage bills come in!
Next year, saildrive leg needs overhauling, more paint, odd jobs here and there, I'm already at £4k and haven't started yet!
Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
XJSJohn said:
Boat is merely an acronym ... Bring Out Another Thousand.
Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
My family have always described sailing in the uk as "Standing in a cold shower tearing up £50 notes"Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
Our boat has cost a fortune this year - new engine, new gel coat (early signs of osmosis), new standing rigging, new dinghy, new pullpit (don't ask!) etc. Thats on top of the regular running costs of mooring (lucky to have a harbour board mooring on the Hamble), winter storage, anti fouling etc
blueg33 said:
Our boat has cost a fortune this year - new engine, new gel coat (early signs of osmosis), new standing rigging, new dinghy, new pullpit (don't ask!) etc. Thats on top of the regular running costs of mooring (lucky to have a harbour board mooring on the Hamble), winter storage, anti fouling etc
Jammy git!!!blueg33 said:
Fishtigua said:
Jammy git!!!
Went on the waiting list when I was 10, have had the mooring for about 20 years, I am now 49. Started with a swinging mooring opposite Mercury, but moved onto piles when we got a bigger boat. Before the HB mooring, we had a berth at the RAFYC
remember Bert, the miserable grumpy harbormaster?!?!?
blueg33 said:
XJSJohn said:
Boat is merely an acronym ... Bring Out Another Thousand.
Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
My family have always described sailing in the uk as "Standing in a cold shower tearing up £50 notes"Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
Our boat has cost a fortune this year - new engine, new gel coat (early signs of osmosis), new standing rigging, new dinghy, new pullpit (don't ask!) etc. Thats on top of the regular running costs of mooring (lucky to have a harbour board mooring on the Hamble), winter storage, anti fouling etc
Thank goodness I wasn't funding the campaigns!!
schmalex said:
blueg33 said:
XJSJohn said:
Boat is merely an acronym ... Bring Out Another Thousand.
Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
My family have always described sailing in the uk as "Standing in a cold shower tearing up £50 notes"Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
Our boat has cost a fortune this year - new engine, new gel coat (early signs of osmosis), new standing rigging, new dinghy, new pullpit (don't ask!) etc. Thats on top of the regular running costs of mooring (lucky to have a harbour board mooring on the Hamble), winter storage, anti fouling etc
Thank goodness I wasn't funding the campaigns!!
blueg33 said:
schmalex said:
blueg33 said:
XJSJohn said:
Boat is merely an acronym ... Bring Out Another Thousand.
Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
My family have always described sailing in the uk as "Standing in a cold shower tearing up £50 notes"Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
Our boat has cost a fortune this year - new engine, new gel coat (early signs of osmosis), new standing rigging, new dinghy, new pullpit (don't ask!) etc. Thats on top of the regular running costs of mooring (lucky to have a harbour board mooring on the Hamble), winter storage, anti fouling etc
Thank goodness I wasn't funding the campaigns!!
My mainsail as a belly on it bigger than its skipper, and most of our regatta budget goes behind the yacht club bar, but with a lovely age corrected IRC of 1.597 we still shoot well over our weight for and IOR 3/4 tonner
so i guess in response to the OP's question "How much boat is required?" the answer should be "how much boat can you afford!!!"
XJSJohn said:
blueg33 said:
schmalex said:
blueg33 said:
XJSJohn said:
Boat is merely an acronym ... Bring Out Another Thousand.
Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
My family have always described sailing in the uk as "Standing in a cold shower tearing up £50 notes"Or alternatively, an impression in the water, usually wrapped in fiber glass, steel or wood, that the owner uses to throw $50 bills into.
or again another one, often used on my boat, especially where the running backstays are concerned "keep grinding until the cheque book says no"
Our boat has cost a fortune this year - new engine, new gel coat (early signs of osmosis), new standing rigging, new dinghy, new pullpit (don't ask!) etc. Thats on top of the regular running costs of mooring (lucky to have a harbour board mooring on the Hamble), winter storage, anti fouling etc
Thank goodness I wasn't funding the campaigns!!
My mainsail as a belly on it bigger than its skipper, and most of our regatta budget goes behind the yacht club bar, but with a lovely age corrected IRC of 1.597 we still shoot well over our weight for and IOR 3/4 tonner
so i guess in response to the OP's question "How much boat is required?" the answer should be "how much boat can you afford!!!"
The costs to really competitively race a yacht are truly eye-watering.
already 16:1 ....... 
XJSJohn said:
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so i guess in response to the OP's question "How much boat is required?" the answer should be "how much boat can you afford!!!"
The op says eek! at some of the reported figures!so i guess in response to the OP's question "How much boat is required?" the answer should be "how much boat can you afford!!!"
Maybe first a river/coastgoing motorboat (giggidy, again) for daytrips locallyish around coast and rivers isnt such a bad start..
On the otherhand do keep up the derails I'm enjoying and learning!
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