The last flying B29

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GrahamG

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267 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Popped into the very excellent Commemorative Air Force Museum in Midland, Texas last week, part of a road trip in the States

We'd hoped to see Fifi, the last flying B29 Superfortress but as we arrived she was being towed away from the museum hangar

There was plenty of other fantastic stuff to savour from WWII warbirds to a Vietnam exhibition, and a simply magnificent exhibition of WWII Nose art, several stunning examples saved after a guy responsible for scrapping hundreds of aircraft post war decided to cut out 34 sections to make a fence! His family donated the art to the museum and it is stunning stuff.

As we were leaving the museum the lady manning the ticket booth asked if we'd enjoyed it - We had, but said we were sorry to miss seeing Fifi up close - God bless her she got one of her colleagues to walk us across the airfield to the B29s dedicated hangar (Fifi was being put to bed to avoid the back end of Hurricane Odell which passed through the following day.

Stunning plane, and wonderful Texan hospitality

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

164 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Do you mean "The Confederate Air Force" ?

I`m sure you must.

kowalski655

14,632 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Commemerative is the new name

Confederate is better smile

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

164 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Ouch thats no good does this mean I am no longer a colonel ?

Used to go out to Midland every year in the 90s for the airshow, wonderful times!

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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They changed the name back in 2002.


GRS40

162 posts

169 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Would love to see her over here

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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GRS40 said:
Would love to see her over here
I think that Canada has thrown down the gauntlet by sending over Vera... are they man enough to accept?

smile

GrahamG

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267 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Were told that there are requests for Fifi to visit Moscow (though this is unlikely in the near future) and the UK (for Flying Legends)

That's likely to be some years away though

j_s14a

863 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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anymore pics to share? the nose art etc?

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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ash73 said:
Amazingly advanced design for its era, much as I love the Lanc it looks quite agricultural next to one of these.
It was a major advance on anything that had gone before. Boeing were one of the world leaders in pressurisation techniques. They had built the worlds first pressurised airliner, the Boeing 307, just before WW2 and this knowledge was put to good use in the B-29.

The 307 used the wings, tail assembly and engines of the B-17 mated to a completely new, and pressurised, fuselage. The war intervened before it could gain any significant sales.



kowalski655

14,632 posts

143 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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They did the same with the B29,which led to the Boeing 377, a lovely looking plane(if a bit chubby maybe smile,and a bit unreliable so not a huge success)

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Until the advent of the 707, Boeing were rather a bit player in the airliner field. The big manufacturers of the 30s, 40 and 50s had been Douglas, Martin and Lockheed.

Boeing took a gamble on the 707, and stole a march on their competitors.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Ash you have to take into location and ease of production as well as the aircraft's capabilities. No point buying/building b29s if you don't need the three thousand mile combat range.

jamieduff1981

8,024 posts

140 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Probably a flawed plan from the outset trying to go to war with 3 second world war types tbh...

southendpier

5,254 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Wasn't the B29 design cost (to drop atom bombs) astonishlingly expensive?

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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It wasn't specifically designed to drop nuclear bombs. It was designed as the next logical advance on bombers such as the B-17 and the B-24.

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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southendpier said:
Wasn't the B29 design cost (to drop atom bombs) astonishlingly expensive?
I would be very surprised if the designers knew what an atomic bomb was when they designed it (the B29).

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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onyx39 said:
southendpier said:
Wasn't the B29 design cost (to drop atom bombs) astonishlingly expensive?
I would be very surprised if the designers knew what an atomic bomb was when they designed it (the B29).
It had to be modified to carry a nuke, there was a suggestion to use a Lancaster instead.

southendpier

5,254 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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onyx39 said:
southendpier said:
Wasn't the B29 design cost (to drop atom bombs) astonishlingly expensive?
I would be very surprised if the designers knew what an atomic bomb was when they designed it (the B29).
I wasn't very clear, I understand the B29 Superfortress was the most expensive weapon designed for/in WW2. It cost more that the bomb it was due to carry.

http://acepilots.com/planes/b29.html

Edited by southendpier on Thursday 25th September 14:03