Suez Canal containers ships crash

Suez Canal containers ships crash

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Mr_B

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10,480 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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What are these two up too ? Look like one is playing silly buggers as if one is an Addsion Lee taxi in London traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ocTTkHqQcg

MartG

20,677 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Whoops - guess someone will now be out of a job


Edit - rudder problem allegedly http://online.wsj.com/articles/two-container-ships...

Edited by MartG on Tuesday 30th September 14:54

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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WTF!!!!!

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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If Pastor Mald was a ships captain

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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What the actual?? The larger ship appears to turn broadside across the smaller one - who makes no apparent attempt to change course! 9I know these things aren't nimble but he didn't even appear to try).

Why, and why?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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gcaptain said:
three containers were lost over the side
Imagine you've just found your dream car abroad somewhere and paid your £2k to have it shipped to Blighty…. eek

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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When we were waiting at anchor to pass through the Suez, a frozen chicken floated by. Then another, then more and more. Soon we were surrounded by thousands of Chucky Chickens.

Some freezer container must have broken down and the crew lobbed the stinky chucks over the side. The fish and sharks were having a field-day. wobble

MartG

20,677 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Fishtigua said:
When we were waiting at anchor to pass through the Suez, a frozen chicken floated by. Then another, then more and more. Soon we were surrounded by thousands of Chucky Chickens.

Some freezer container must have broken down and the crew lobbed the stinky chucks over the side. The fish and sharks were having a field-day. wobble
You were lucky - anchored off Dubai it was dead camels drifting past from a livestock ship a few hundred yards away - and boy did they stink !

Popeyed

543 posts

219 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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CAPP0 said:
What the actual?? The larger ship appears to turn broadside across the smaller one - who makes no apparent attempt to change course! 9I know these things aren't nimble but he didn't even appear to try).

Why, and why?
The Maersk vessel that was hit has the canal bank close on his port side, and the Hapag Lloyd vessel coming towards his starboard side. If he altered to port he would hit the bank, and no doubt be hit by the Hapag Lloyd vessel, if he had altered to starboard he would have just altered the angle of the collision, probably causing greater damage to his own ship. There is little the Maersk vessel could do in the circumstances, I would have put the engine full astern in the hope the other vessel would clear my bow.

IMHO the Hapag Lloyd vessel suffered a steering gear failure, look at the angle of heel as it turns to port; indicative of a large rudder angle being applied and a high rate of turn. Either that or the helmsman applied the large port rudder angle because he was deaf / stupid / not paying attention etc.

gwm

2,390 posts

144 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Quite crazy odds timing for steering to fail just as they move past.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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gwm said:
Quite crazy odds timing for steering to fail just as they move past.
And just as they were heading towards the bank in a crazy overtake manoevre.

scratchchin

TTwiggy

11,538 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Very hard to say, given the big zoom and consequent foreshortening, but it does look as if the overtaking vessel suddenly becomes aware that shallow water is much closer than previously thought wink

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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All the skippers give it some wellie up there to get an early spot in the queue. I bet they were both at full chat.

ninja-lewis

4,241 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I recall a video of a yacht trying to overtake a cruise ship in a canal with a similar outcome. Something to do with being pushed out by the wake of the vessel in the front (vessel 2) as you (vessel 1) pass its stern so you counter with rudder towards the vessel 2 in order to the maintain the parallel course but then the negative(?) pressure amidships of vessel 2 causes vessel 1 to be sucked towards vessel 2. Made worse by the rudder angle now causing you to turn rather than holding a course in a "crosswind" so to be speak. A particular danger of narrow channels as the the forces exerted on the sea by vessel 2 do not disperse but are reflected off the banks.

Something like that IIRC?

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Any pilots on both vessels?

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Strange things happen in narrow waters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jwb0-r0haw

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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^^ great insight for land lubbers, cheers

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Boatbuoy said:
Very similar to the original incident