Most seaworthy type of ship?

[Vipers]

Simpo Two said:

I think there is a difference between 'most likely to stay upright' and 'most likely to stay afloat'! A Severn class lifeboat may be unsinkable but you'll probably spend half the time on the ceiling!

Deckhead, bloody landlubbers




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[GBGaffer]

Vipers said:

Deckhead, bloody landlubbers




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If she was lying on her side you could be on the ceiling!

Bloody landlubbers!

[Vipers]

GBGaffer said:

If she was lying on her side you could be on the ceiling!

Bloody landlubbers!

Youll be telling me next ships/boats have toilets as well...........

[GBGaffer]

Vipers said:

Youll be telling me next ships/boats have toilets as well...........

I need to get my heads around that, but meanwhile..

http://www.seatalk.info/cgi-bin/nautical-marine-sa...

I'm now off to wold my gammon iron!

Cheers

G

[Ayahuasca]

GBGaffer said:

I need to get my heads around that, but meanwhile..

http://www.seatalk.info/cgi-bin/nautical-marine-sa...

I'm now off to wold my gammon iron!

Cheers

G

Back in the day a favourite buccaneer torture was to wold prisoners' heads. Maybe not actually in the heads though.

[Vipers]

Ayahuasca said:

GBGaffer said:

I need to get my heads around that, but meanwhile..

http://www.seatalk.info/cgi-bin/nautical-marine-sa...

I'm now off to wold my gammon iron!

Cheers

G

Back in the day a favourite buccaneer torture was to wold prisoners' heads. Maybe not actually in the heads though.

The word "Heads" apparently originated in the old wind jammer days when there was no toilets, one would hold ones arse over the ships side, and shout out "Heads", so some unsuspecting punter below looking out of a port would pull his head in toot sweet.

As far as I know.

[Ayahuasca]

Vipers said:

Ayahuasca said:

GBGaffer said:

I need to get my heads around that, but meanwhile..

http://www.seatalk.info/cgi-bin/nautical-marine-sa...

I'm now off to wold my gammon iron!

Cheers

G

Back in the day a favourite buccaneer torture was to wold prisoners' heads. Maybe not actually in the heads though.

The word "Heads" apparently originated in the old wind jammer days when there was no toilets, one would hold ones arse over the ships side, and shout out "Heads", so some unsuspecting punter below looking out of a port would pull his head in toot sweet.

As far as I know.

Nay lad, old ships had a thing called 'tumble home' which mean that the hull's sides sloped outwards from the deck to the waterline so anyone dumping over the rail had a good chance of landing a turd into a gun port just below which would not be good for morale on board.

The proper place to strain your fecal matter from your gut was from the 'beak head' i.e. the very front part of the ship overhanging the water just underneath the bowsprit.

[DJFish]

If you watch Master & Commander, right at the start there's a fella taking a cheeky dump up in the ships head.

[Vipers]

V

Ayahuasca said:

Nay lad, old ships had a thing called 'tumble home' which mean that the hull's sides sloped outwards from the deck to the waterline so anyone dumping over the rail had a good chance of landing a turd into a gun port just below which would not be good for morale on board.

The proper place to strain your fecal matter from your gut was from the 'beak head' i.e. the very front part of the ship overhanging the water just underneath the bowsprit.

And thats from experience . Could be right of course, so many things get a bit grey over the years.

[Vipers]

doogz said:

The toilet is the head, because it is (was) at the head of the ship, the fwd end, on a sailing ship.

Some modern ships still use a tumblehome design. The new yankee Zumwalt destroyers being one.

Saw some fishing boats in Sonkla Vietnam recently, stuck at the back was a squarish sheet of wood with a hole in it jutting over the sterne.

[Benjaminpalma]

Vipers said:

I remember in the navy being standby diver when John Noaks (Blue Peter team) was strapped into the cox's seat, and two hawsers run under a new lifeboat, and attached to the bollards the other side.

A crane slowly pulled the boat upside down, and of course it righted itself.

This was on the IOW somewhere, Valerie Singleton was there as well. I was a bit shocked bearing in mind you associate these two with a kids programme, when John said something to Valerie, and she said "John, you are a fking wker"

This would have been early 70's.

See at about 3:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be0sUX1h38g - my Dad made the film.

[Vipers]

Benjaminpalma said:

See at about 3:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be0sUX1h38g - my Dad made the film.

Thats exactly how I remembered it, with John Noaks strapped in the coxswains seat. We were over there as standby diver just incase.

[chrisga]

PanzerCommander said:

What defines a boat as a boat and a ship as a ship then?

I'd heard a boat leans in to a turn at speed, whereas a ship leans out.

[Phud]

Ships carry boat, boats do not carry ships

[Vipers]

Came across this definition.

What is the definition of a boat versus a ship?

The Historic Ships Committee have designated a vessel below 40 tons and 40 ft in length as a boat. However, submarines and fishing vessels are always known as boats whatever their size.

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Then again R.N. "Dark Class" fast patrol "boats" were 50 long tons and 71 ft in length. I give up...........

Edited by Vipers on Wednesday 15th October 17:15

[Phud]

doogz said:

Phud said:

Ships carry boat, boats do not carry ships

So what's a floating surface vessel that's not carrying any other vessels?

A ship or a boat?

If it can carry boats it's a ship, if not, either flotsam or boat

[chrisga]

My sailing boat could easily carry one of my radio control boats. At 14' long a ship it is not...

[Vipers]

doogz said:

None of these little 'limericks' really work. My mates little yacht has a tiny little RHIB on the back. A ship, it is not.

What about an offshore patrol boat? Is that a boat? Or a ship? They regularly carry smaller boats onboard?

See my post up the page on Fast Patrol Boats.

I am surprised no one has mentioned the "Eaton shipping song" yet

Edited by Vipers on Thursday 16th October 09:28

[Kenty]

Vipers said:

Came across this definition.

What is the definition of a boat versus a ship?

The Historic Ships Committee have designated a vessel below 40 tons and 40 ft in length as a boat. However, submarines and fishing vessels are always known as boats whatever their size.

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Then again R.N. "Dark Class" fast patrol "boats" were 50 long tons and 71 ft in length. I give up...........




When i was at sea (Merchant Navy) i was told Ships are designed to carry a cargo, boats do not.
I am sure there are plenty of examples where this is not true but it does fit the RN, subs, fishing boats, yachts and rowing boats!

Edited by Vipers on Wednesday 15th October 17:15

[Simpo Two]

Kenty said:

When i was at sea (Merchant Navy) i was told Ships are designed to carry a cargo, boats do not.
I am sure there are plenty of examples where this is not true but it does fit the RN, subs, fishing boats, yachts and rowing boats!

Except battleships!

Battleboats Nelson and Rodney... hmm..