40ft to 60ft 'Trawlers'..... The new SUV's of the Water?

40ft to 60ft 'Trawlers'..... The new SUV's of the Water?

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robm3

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4,927 posts

227 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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I see many shipyards are now producing 'Trawler' designs. They maximize leisure space but at the cost of decent looks (always important when buying a boat). But sell on the whole 'eco' and long range cruising message.

They're actually perfect for my waters, those being various big harbours and coastal waterways of the Australian East Coast.


Anyhow I may be in the market for one in around 12 months. And this Cranchi pig of a boat has caught my eye:




Azimut are another group getting in on the Trawler action:



Slightly prettier boats I think but cost more.

Anyhow, it seems we'll be seeing more of these designs on the water in the near future.


gazzarose

1,162 posts

133 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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I love the trawler designs. I've worked on a couple of Beneteau trawlers, and I work in a Jeanneau dealer and we've sold a couple of Velasco 43s, the feeling of space with the upright/forward leaning screens is great, and because they arn't trying to make them speed boats, the Velasco 43 is a hybrid hull, they handle a fair chop really well without slamming and jumping. We took our stock boat out to take some photos one day in the summer, and with most boats, even biggish ones you can usually get so dramatic looking shots but even when I went into full hooligan mode it just stayed pretty level and flat.



I think people are starting to come round slowly, but alot are still besotted with the glamour of traditional flybridges, but certainly for this country and northern Europe you're better off with a boat thats usuable more of the time rather than waiting for perfect days.

jep

1,183 posts

209 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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I think it's because they don't look as brash as some other designs, and are a little understated (from the outside at least!)

A Nordhavn 63 would be my lottery treat, but I'd settle for a 43 or a 52 too!


robm3

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4,927 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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gazzarose said:
I love the trawler designs. I've worked on a couple of Beneteau trawlers, and I work in a Jeanneau dealer and we've sold a couple of Velasco 43s, the feeling of space with the upright/forward leaning screens is great, and because they arn't trying to make them speed boats, the Velasco 43 is a hybrid hull, they handle a fair chop really well without slamming and jumping. We took our stock boat out to take some photos one day in the summer, and with most boats, even biggish ones you can usually get so dramatic looking shots but even when I went into full hooligan mode it just stayed pretty level and flat.



I think people are starting to come round slowly, but alot are still besotted with the glamour of traditional flybridges, but certainly for this country and northern Europe you're better off with a boat thats usuable more of the time rather than waiting for perfect days.
Yes, that's the kinda thing I'm on about. Looks great too.

I think the Beneteau kinda kicked this thing off with the Swift range a few years back (ignoring the Grand Banks and the like). They look decent still but the Cranchi shows how the game is moving on/modernising I think.



Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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A mate, Pete Watson, took his Botnia Targa 35 from Guernsey to Sweden and back to see his in-laws.



He has now bought a Dashew in NZ and motored back to Guernsey with it.

http://www.sail-world.com/cruising/usa/Yacht-of-th...

http://setsail.com/fpb-64/




pad58

12,545 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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All look like pleasure boats to me.

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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no mention of the "daddy" of the trawler design, the Grand Banks??


robm3

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4,927 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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XJSJohn said:
no mention of the "daddy" of the trawler design, the Grand Banks??
Oh yes, I did mention it. But they're designs are cookie cutters of their 60's boats (with that American habit of putting 1980's/90's decor inside). It's the new Italian and French take on the theme I'm referring to.

robm3

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4,927 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Fishtigua said:
A mate, Pete Watson, took his Botnia Targa 35 from Guernsey to Sweden and back to see his in-laws.



He has now bought a Dashew in NZ and motored back to Guernsey with it.

http://www.sail-world.com/cruising/usa/Yacht-of-th...

http://setsail.com/fpb-64/



Wow, great read. Thanks.

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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robm3 said:
XJSJohn said:
no mention of the "daddy" of the trawler design, the Grand Banks??
Oh yes, I did mention it. But they're designs are cookie cutters of their 60's boats (with that American habit of putting 1980's/90's decor inside). It's the new Italian and French take on the theme I'm referring to.
BTW you know they are made in Malaysia (was Singapore, and originally Hong Kong) and have never been american owned ... but yes i agree that they do lean towards the american market for design..

However the quality (not design) of the fit out will be significantly higher from the GB's in my opinion!

robm3

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4,927 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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XJSJohn said:
robm3 said:
XJSJohn said:
no mention of the "daddy" of the trawler design, the Grand Banks??
Oh yes, I did mention it. But they're designs are cookie cutters of their 60's boats (with that American habit of putting 1980's/90's decor inside). It's the new Italian and French take on the theme I'm referring to.
BTW you know they are made in Malaysia (was Singapore, and originally Hong Kong) and have never been american owned ... but yes i agree that they do lean towards the american market for design..

However the quality (not design) of the fit out will be significantly higher from the GB's in my opinion!
Oh, I don't disagree. They'll also hold their value well as I suspect a boat like the Cranchi I posted will age badly (have a look at the interior of any euro boat 10+ years, French cruces anyone).

zed4

7,248 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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gazzarose said:
I love the trawler designs. I've worked on a couple of Beneteau trawlers, and I work in a Jeanneau dealer and we've sold a couple of Velasco 43s, the feeling of space with the upright/forward leaning screens is great, and because they arn't trying to make them speed boats, the Velasco 43 is a hybrid hull, they handle a fair chop really well without slamming and jumping. We took our stock boat out to take some photos one day in the summer, and with most boats, even biggish ones you can usually get so dramatic looking shots but even when I went into full hooligan mode it just stayed pretty level and flat.



I think people are starting to come round slowly, but alot are still besotted with the glamour of traditional flybridges, but certainly for this country and northern Europe you're better off with a boat thats usuable more of the time rather than waiting for perfect days.
Where do you work Gareth - Cambrian? I work for BHG Marine in Lymington, also a Jeanneau dealer.

Have you noticed how Jeanneau are now shying away from the reverse raked windscreen in the new Velasco models...

37F...



43F...


gazzarose

1,162 posts

133 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Yeah for Robin at Cambrian. I've seen the pictures of the F's. And to be honest I much Prefer the orignals. The F's just turn it into every other flybridge cruiser. The airy feeling inside the normal ones with out the screen encroaching on the galley, and the skylights in the roof, make it feel so much bigger.

pad58

12,545 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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I Must have mis-read the title , I wrongly assumed that a 'Trawler' a boat that fishermen use to catch fish.



Like this.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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[quote=pad58]I Must have mis-read the title , I wrongly assumed that a 'Trawler' a boat that fishermen use to catch fish.
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They originally were, then converted to yachts. The same basic hull shape and wheelhouse were kept but the hold was turned into accommodation. My Aunt and Uncle took their 80ft wooden Scottish trawler up to Switzerland on the way to the Med once.

These new ones are called Fast-Trawlers, a little more chunky than a gin-palace.

http://www.rightboat.com/boats-for-sale/gerrard-br...

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Fishtigua]ad58 said:
My Aunt and Uncle took their 80ft wooden Scottish trawler up to Switzerland on the way to the Med once.
Where did they buy their charts from ?!? smile

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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I like the Flemming trawler style yachts. smile

HDM

340 posts

191 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Fishtigua said:
A mate, Pete Watson, took his Botnia Targa 35 from Guernsey to Sweden and back to see his in-laws.



He has now bought a Dashew in NZ and motored back to Guernsey with it.

http://www.sail-world.com/cruising/usa/Yacht-of-th...

http://setsail.com/fpb-64/



Fishtigua, great link thanks. I don't think I could EVER see myself on a boat that small making that voyage, especially when I read one quote in the blog that when the crew went for a mid ocean swim, the nearest land was a couple of miles underneath them, underwater!!!!

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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HDM said:
Fishtigua, great link thanks. I don't think I could EVER see myself on a boat that small making that voyage, especially when I read one quote in the blog that when the crew went for a mid ocean swim, the nearest land was a couple of miles underneath them, underwater!!!!
If you can't touch the bottom it matters not whether it is 50 feet or 50 miles deep smile

silver_lining

54 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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New Outer Reef 550 Trident. I like.