Fantasy Airshow

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Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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JonChalk said:
Simpo Two said:
JonChalk said:
Messerschmitt Me 163

The only ever rocket-powered plane to fly....
What about the Bell X series? Though they were air launched.
True, though a touch difficult to see at their normal operating altitude smile

I probably should have been a bit more accurate - only ever rocket-powered war plane (or commercial plane) to see service...
The Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, saw operational service too.

In terms of experimental rocket planes, a bit closer to home there was the Saunders Roe SR.53.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Equus said:
The Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, saw operational service too.
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Had to google that - never heard of it - more like a one-shot human-guided missile, but you're right.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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When I was about 5, we went to the Yeovilton air day, an F104 flew past at about 100ft and a gazillion knots. I can still remember the noise, so we need one of those. Oh and a F111, that’s me sorted....

Bisonhead

1,568 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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For me...

Harrier
Tornado
Phantom
Mirage 2000
B1-b
Nimrod
A400m
Merlin engined anything
F-14 (never seen)
F-22
Turkish f-16
Mig-29

CanAm

9,234 posts

273 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Equus said:
JonChalk said:
Simpo Two said:
JonChalk said:
Messerschmitt Me 163

The only ever rocket-powered plane to fly....
What about the Bell X series? Though they were air launched.
True, though a touch difficult to see at their normal operating altitude smile

I probably should have been a bit more accurate - only ever rocket-powered war plane (or commercial plane) to see service...
The Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, saw operational service too.

In terms of experimental rocket planes, a bit closer to home there was the Saunders Roe SR.53.
The SR.53 was strictly speaking a hybrid.

There was also the not exactly successful German Bachem Ba 349 "Natter", one of which I saw in the Deutsches Museum in Munich.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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CanAm said:
The SR.53 was strictly speaking a hybrid.

There was also the not exactly successful German Bachem Ba 349 "Natter", one of which I saw in the Deutsches Museum in Munich.
Yes, the SR.53 took of, landed and 'loitered' on a Viper turbojet.

The Natter never flew operationally and if we're counting prototypes, there have been quite a few others from the Lippisch Ente and Opel RAK 1 through to the MIG I-70 and French Trident (another hybrid - equivalent to the SR.53).

There has even been a rocket powered Rutan Long-ez homebuilt! yikes

CanAm

9,234 posts

273 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Equus said:
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The Natter never flew operationally........
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Which must have been a relief for the prospective pilots.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,204 posts

56 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Always liked the weird and experimental stuff

TA152
Valkyrie
Bell X-15... In fact an x plane airshow would be amazing.
XF5U
VZ9 Avrocar
Avangard
SR72 + whatever else is currently being tested in secret.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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CanAm said:
Which must have been a relief for the prospective pilots.
Given that it killed the only one who attempted an operational-style vertical take off, yes, I should think it was!

They were talking about circuit racing the Long-ez derived rocket planes, but the project seems to have come to nothing.

Arnie Cunningham

3,773 posts

254 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Just been reading up on these. Wow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachem_Ba_349

CanAm said:
Which must have been a relief for the prospective pilots.

CanAm

9,234 posts

273 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Equus said:
CanAm said:
Which must have been a relief for the prospective pilots.
Given that it killed the only one who attempted an operational-style vertical take off, yes, I should think it was!

They were talking about circuit racing the Long-ez derived rocket planes, but the project seems to have come to nothing.
Which must have been a relief for those prospective pilots too! And the spectators.

Arnie Cunningham

3,773 posts

254 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Anyway, some excellent suggestions here, especially with the Valkyrie.

I'll add a few to the mix - the Northrop YB-35, YB-49 & the Convair F2Y

CanAm

9,234 posts

273 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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A few I’d like to see that I’ve never seen flying are:-

Beaufighter
Halifax
Liberator
B-36 Peacemaker

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Equus said:
Given that it killed the only one who attempted an operational-style vertical take off, yes, I should think it was!

They were talking about circuit racing the Long-ez derived rocket planes, but the project seems to have come to nothing.
The odd thing is that rockets are much older and simpler technology than piston engines. Otto Lilienthal could have made a self launching rocket glider in the 1890s.


ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

177 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Bell X-15
Agreed, but only at mach 6 (would go down to mach 5 if I had to negotiate)

Nuclearsquash

1,329 posts

263 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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As a kid living in Bournemouth me and my dad would go to the airshow at what was Hurn Airport.

I've just found the below from 1986 that brought back some memories.

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/airshow/Hurn%20-%20TV...

I do remember when we went in 87 the Vulcan doing a pass and I'm sure a Tornado broke the sound barrier.

EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

159 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Nuclearsquash said:
As a kid living in Bournemouth me and my dad would go to the airshow at what was Hurn Airport.

I've just found the below from 1986 that brought back some memories.

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/airshow/Hurn%20-%20TV...

I do remember when we went in 87 the Vulcan doing a pass and I'm sure a Tornado broke the sound barrier.
I went to the 1990 Hurn airshow when I was 7 years old. I remember being stood back from the runway, as the Vulcan was about to take off, and a grandfather said to his grandkids "cover your ears as this will be loud!"
He was right...both the ground and I shook as it thundered past, and my hearing has never been the same since! Totally worth it though lol

MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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I loved the Church Fenton air show as a kid. If I could go back in time and experience it as it was, but with a Concorde display thrown in too, I think that would be pretty much perfect.

CeramicMX5ND2

7,765 posts

74 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Through the 1990's I went to every Farnborough, Fairford, Mildenhall and Paris Air Shows - So saw and heard most things.. I remember 2 Mig 29's colliding at Fairford and the pilots escaping in their shutes, only to be repremanded on the ground for lighting up cigarettes... rolleyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyUSnzClGk

I would have like to have seen the Tupolev Tu144 "Concordski" fly.. One crashed at a Paris Air Show many years before I ever went...!

wolfracesonic

7,023 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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JonChalk said:
Equus said:
The Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, saw operational service too.
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Had to google that - never heard of it - more like a one-shot human-guided missile, but you're right.
You probably wouldn’t want to see one at an air show though! ‘Oh, he’s not going to land at that speed is he...?’