Timelapse tour of UK airspace

[Luca Brazzi]

Fascinating. Very nicely put together.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30108947

[Vocal Minority]

That's pretty bad ass actually

[mrdemon]

and they want to tax a new car for £1k when I never go on a plane !!! CO2 tax my arse

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

we need Air Tax, too may people hopping on planes imo

[jmorgan]

Some fella did this a few years ago with US data.

http://www.aaronkoblin.com/work/flightpatterns/ind...

[anonymous-user]

NATS have a youtube page with a few of these in much higher quality than the BBC one,

UK

http://youtu.be/a8CQ29yWvZI?list=UUzw0RDbr4VvBOCq3...

North Atlantic

http://youtu.be/6pI77r3oAxw

Europe

http://youtu.be/d88VZdRn3i0

[Blaster72]

mrdemon said:

and they want to tax a new car for £1k when I never go on a plane !!! CO2 tax my arse

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

we need Air Tax, too may people hopping on planes imo

What you mean like this one?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rates-a...

[anonymous-user]

Blaster72 said:

mrdemon said:

and they want to tax a new car for £1k when I never go on a plane !!! CO2 tax my arse

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

we need Air Tax, too may people hopping on planes imo

What you mean like this one?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rates-a...

He never go on a plane !!!

[hornetrider]

el stovey said:

NATS have a youtube page with a few of these in much higher quality than the BBC one,

UK

http://youtu.be/a8CQ29yWvZI?list=UUzw0RDbr4VvBOCq3...

North Atlantic

http://youtu.be/6pI77r3oAxw

Europe

http://youtu.be/d88VZdRn3i0

Superb, cheers for that (and the op). Fascinating stuff!

[Rower]

Great stuff I just thought SW London had a problem !

Nice to hear from you again Luca Brazzi !

[djc206]

The Ockham (OCK) hold to the sw of London takes a fair amount of traffic first thing when all the heavies turn up from North America but as you can see from the footage Lambourne (LAM) to the east is the busiest hold for the rest of the day. Biggin (BIG) and Bovingdon (BNN) being the other two. BNN is normally fair quiet unless it's a North about day when the transatlantic flights come down the country rather than in through Irish airspace.

[5150]

East Coast USA to Heathrow normally ends up holding at Ockham

West Coast normally goes to Bovingdon . . .

[djc206]

5150 said:

East Coast USA to Heathrow normally ends up holding at Ockham

West Coast normally goes to Bovingdon . . .

Yep thanks for correcting that, my comment was meant as a general principle for transatlantic traffic the lions share of which is from the eastern seaboard and Caribbean.

Edited by djc206 on Friday 21st November 09:31

[5150]

Sure! Like you say, just adding to it!

[djc206]

5150 said:

Sure! Like you say, just adding to it!

I've changed adding to correcting to keep you happy.

Edited by djc206 on Friday 21st November 10:13

[IforB]

mrdemon said:

and they want to tax a new car for £1k when I never go on a plane !!! CO2 tax my arse

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

we need Air Tax, too may people hopping on planes imo

Oh sush.

[Klippie]

mrdemon said:

and they want to tax a new car for £1k when I never go on a plane !!! CO2 tax my arse

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

we need Air Tax, too may people hopping on planes imo

Hit the nail right on the head...aviation fuel has no duty on it either it's an international agreement apparently.

It's all bullst...

[IforB]

Klippie said:

mrdemon said:

and they want to tax a new car for £1k when I never go on a plane !!! CO2 tax my arse

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

we need Air Tax, too may people hopping on planes imo

Hit the nail right on the head...aviation fuel has no duty on it either it's an international agreement apparently.

It's all bullst...

If you put duty on aviation fuel in the UK, all you'd do is make sure that we fill the tanks outside the uk and tank fuel in, meaning less revenue to UK suppliers and increasing CO2 emissions as you burn fuel to carry fuel.

You'd also put all UK carriers out of business ot force them to relocate somewhere that doesn't have the fuel duty.

So, other than that, fuel duty on aviation is a really good idea...

[Prawo Jazdy]

mrdemon said:

1 trip to the USA in a plane puts out more co2 than my car in my life

Your car can't carry 350 people though. Nor can it get from London to New York in seven hours. In other news, a coal-fired power station emits more than your home boiler. Who knew?

[Testaburger]

IforB said:

If you put duty on aviation fuel in the UK, all you'd do is make sure that we fill the tanks outside the uk and tank fuel in, meaning less revenue to UK suppliers and increasing CO2 emissions as you burn fuel to carry fuel.

You'd also put all UK carriers out of business ot force them to relocate somewhere that doesn't have the fuel duty.

So, other than that, fuel duty on aviation is a really good idea...

Spoilsport.