Winkle Brown of radio2

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IanMorewood

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Thursday 27th November 2014
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Right now may be worth a catch up on iplayer, Jeremy Vine though asking questions.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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I didn't realise Eric Brown worked for Radio 2 smile

Thanks for the heads up - I'll try and catch up with it later.

IanMorewood

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Thursday 27th November 2014
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The of bit I think was probably auto correct, chunky thumbs and a Mobile not great.

zoom star

519 posts

151 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Why they don't sit this guy down and just let him talk,and record the lot.
My god what a life,he is liking a walking Wiki.
No honours, nothing, run around a track or ride a bike, you get knighted.
Jeremy Vine had to fit as many questions in short time,still mind boggling,should have done the whole show.
I actually feel humbled.

IanMorewood

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Thursday 27th November 2014
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You could fill a day with his stories quite easily, however at 95 I'm not sure he could do a full day of questions. Interview didn't do much in the way of justice to him, no time to cover much.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 27th November 2014
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zoom star said:
Why they don't sit this guy down and just let him talk,and record the lot.
They have -



1 hour 42 minutes.


guru_1071

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234 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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just happened to catch this when I walked into the stores at work, made the youth listen to it and he said 'god, what a life, I wish I had been born then!'

RizzoTheRat

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192 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Eric, is that widely available? Loved Wings On My Sleeve and like the idea of a long interview

V8 Fettler

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132 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Very lucid at 95 years of age. Perhaps he could have his own show on the Light programme? Certainly more interesting to listen to than any of the established "presenters",

Edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04njj9y 1hr 33min onwards

Edited by V8 Fettler on Friday 28th November 08:48

Simpo Two

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Friday 28th November 2014
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Eric Mc

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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I listened to the interview. Why won't they ask him anything about his test flying career? After all, that is chiefly why he is famous?

They seem to be completely obsessed by the fact that he met a few Nazis.

Simpo Two

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I listened to the interview. Why won't they ask him anything about his test flying career? After all, that is chiefly why he is famous?

They seem to be completely obsessed by the fact that he met a few Nazis.
Because Joe Public isn't interested in 1940s/1950s test flying. So the media pick the woo bit.

Eric Mc

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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How do they know whether the public is interested or not? They don't give them the chance to hear any of his testing tales - which are pretty hairy and exciting in their own right.

RizzoTheRat

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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It's a fairly safe bet though isn't it. The majority of listeners will have heard of Himmler but wouldn't know a Do335 from an A320

Eric Mc

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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And they never will if the media don't take the initiative a bit.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter to the excitement or thrill of a story if the listener doesn't really know what an Me262 or an Me163 looks like - but if the pilot has had a bit of an adventure in one, then THAT is what makes the story exciting.

Simpo Two

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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To you (and me and us here)

But no, they wont have heard of Himmler, only Hitler, who was a very bad person. So bad, it makes everyone else feel good just thinking about him. Of Stalin, nope, no idea.

So, back to 'Casj' and 'Strictly'...

Eric Mc

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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You are missing the point I am making.

Many people might LEARN about new things from TV or radio. I learned an awful lot about science, space and aviation from watching TV and listening to the radio.

The programme makers would be doing a service by introducing people to the excitement of some of these stories. The BBC in particular have an obligation under their charter to inform, entertain and EDUCATE so they should make that extra effort.

Good TV and radio is not just pandering to what you THINK your audience might be interested in or already know. Now and then you should try to introduce them to something new. They might even enjoy it,.

hidetheelephants

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193 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Eric Mc said:
You are missing the point I am making.

Many people might LEARN about new things from TV or radio. I learned an awful lot about science, space and aviation from watching TV and listening to the radio.

The programme makers would be doing a service by introducing people to the excitement of some of these stories. The BBC in particular have an obligation under their charter to inform, entertain and EDUCATE so they should make that extra effort.

Good TV and radio is not just pandering to what you THINK your audience might be interested in or already know. Now and then you should try to introduce them to something new. They might even enjoy it,.
What Eric said; there aren't many, if any, areas of Brown's working life that aren't fascinating as part of history, particularly the crossover between the UK's wartime industry and the headlong and breathless technological advance of the 1950s and 1960s.

Simpo Two

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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Agree entirely, but the point I am making is that the majority of the population don't give a monkeys about what some old chap did 70 years ago. Sad but true. If it wasn't true, it would be primetime viewing. But it isn't. The residents of this forum are the exception, not the rule. You learned science because you were interested in it. Me too. But most people think science is boring and hard.

Yes, in the 1930s and probably up to the 1970s the Beeb rerepsented the benevolent paternal State and tried to edumacate the masses. Now they don't, much. Maybe because they have to keep up with commercial TV and the programme with the most whizz-bangs gets the most ratings. And if you try to get them interested in something a bit more esoteric, it has to be dumbed down to the point where you and I get cross.

So you have to figure out why more people know about Strictly and the latest boyband, and not what Eric Brown did in 1941 (take a clipboard into the streets). Mr Brown did more in a day than any boyband will do in a lifetime - but that doesn't seem to get any votes.

hidetheelephants

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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The point I was trying to make, and I think Eric was too, is that the level of interest in him having interviewed Goering is no more or less than that in his exploits as a test pilot. Both are equally extraordinary and far from Joe average's experience, but some BBC wonk has decided to pre-filter the content and remove that which didn't interest him/her. 'Nazis! OMG!' is a bad premise for editorial decisions.