Ship stuck on Bramble Bank.

[arfur daley]

could have been worse .... http://youtu.be/cGHOAjyPBWo

[ecsrobin]

Progress appears to be happening:

Winds in the Solent around the Hoegh Osaka reached 60 knots last night. She was held secure by the tugs.

The salvors are aboard the vessel adjusting the ballast system and hope to start pumping water from the car decks over the next 24 hours.

If the good weather continues to allow the salvors to work we will hope there will be a reduction in the list of the vessel over the next few days.

Divers are hoping to carry out an inspection of the hull today.

We will issue a further update tomorrow.

[ecsrobin]

We're up to 48degrees and pumping started at 11am:

"The ship continues to be stable and the salvors ongoing ballasting operations have now reduced the list to 48 degrees.

The divers yesterday successfully carried out a limited inspection of the Hoegh Osaka’s hull. This inspection indicated that there is no significant damage.

The operation to pump water from the vessel’s lower car deck started at 11am today.


We will issue a further update tomorrow."

[Boatbuoy]

I took a little trip down to Lee-on-Solent today, this was the view from there at about 11am:

[saaby93]

Assuming it's floating why is it so far out of the water? Did they forget to load nay ballast?

[ecsrobin]

Boatbuoy said:

I took a little trip down to Lee-on-Solent today, this was the view from there at about 11am:

Dad sent a similar photo to me today. He also said you could visibly see the water pumping out now.

[Boatbuoy]

saaby93 said:

Assuming it's floating why is it so far out of the water? Did they forget to load nay ballast?

Yes, she is floating, it was possible to observe it pivoting on the tugs/anchors today. As far as I understand, the vessel is 1/3rd loaded, and that a fault in the ballast system initially caused it to list and the subsequent deliberate grounding. The water on board entered after on of the excavators on board broke free and punctured a hole in the side, which has now been repaired.

ecsrobin said:

Boatbuoy said:

I took a little trip down to Lee-on-Solent today, this was the view from there at about 11am:

Dad sent a similar photo to me today. He also said you could visibly see the water pumping out now.

Yes, I noticed some water being pumped out for a short time when I first arrived although this had stopped when I left at about 11:30am

[Lincsblokey]

Not being a boaty type, im presuming if the lower car decks are flooded that the engines & ancilleries are well and truly under water, if so, how tough are these things to get sorted, as even if they get her upright she is going to have to be towed away to a big yard for major repairs, and wont go on her own steam?

[Boatbuoy]

Lincsblokey said:

Not being a boaty type, im presuming if the lower car decks are flooded that the engines & ancilleries are well and truly under water, if so, how tough are these things to get sorted, as even if they get her upright she is going to have to be towed away to a big yard for major repairs, and wont go on her own steam?

If Toyota built it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk&li...

[MBBlat]

Lincsblokey said:

Not being a boaty type, im presuming if the lower car decks are flooded that the engines & ancilleries are well and truly under water, if so, how tough are these things to get sorted, as even if they get her upright she is going to have to be towed away to a big yard for major repairs, and wont go on her own steam?

Not necessarily, the engines are normally separated from cargo spaces by a watertight bulkhead and any doors are meant to close automatically, so depending on the design it is quite possible to have the car decks flooded & everything else dry.
Even if the engine rooms are flooded then its not always a total right off - the pic below shows HMS Nottingham's fwd engine room during a well known incident, she was put back into service.

[TheDoggingFather]

MBBlat said:

the pic below shows HMS Nottingham's fwd engine room during a well known incident, she was put back into service.

If that was commercial shipping would it be the same outcome?

[hidetheelephants]

Lincsblokey said:

Not being a boaty type, im presuming if the lower car decks are flooded that the engines & ancilleries are well and truly under water, if so, how tough are these things to get sorted, as even if they get her upright she is going to have to be towed away to a big yard for major repairs, and wont go on her own steam?

Provided the watertight doors between the lower car decks and the aft stairwell were shut(and they should have been as the evacuation was not particularly speedy) there will be little or no water ingress to the engine room.

[wildcat45]

MBBlat said:

Not necessarily, the engines are normally separated from cargo spaces by a watertight bulkhead and any doors are meant to close automatically, so depending on the design it is quite possible to have the car decks flooded & everything else dry.
Even if the engine rooms are flooded then its not always a total right off - the pic below shows HMS Nottingham's fwd engine room during a well known incident, she was put back into service.

Trying to work that pic out. Is that Nottingham's STBD Oly?

One f the problems I recall from hearing about Nottinham was water in electrics, getting into cables and causing problems a long way from the flooded area.

Is that your pic? I'd be very interested to see more of that terrific Damage Contol effort that saved her. Just a shame she ended up at Alliaga 10 years later.

[ecsrobin]

Potential for a move by lthe end of this week:

"The ship continues to be stable and, at this point in the salvors ongoing operations, the ship continues to list at 48 degrees.

Yesterday the operation to pump water from the vessel’s lower car decks removed approximately 800 tons of clean water. The operation will continue today but progress will be slower as divers have to reposition the pump to ensure only clean water is discharged.

The operation is going well, nevertheless the Hoegh Osaka is unlikely to be moved to Southampton Port before Wednesday.


We will issue a further update tomorrow."

[m20b25]

All the cargo will be written off, insurance wise.

Insurers will have their heads in their hands at the moment.

Also, it was luck it ended up in the bank as the rudder was out of the water.

[gwm]

hidetheelephants said:

Provided the watertight doors between the lower car decks and the aft stairwell were shut(and they should have been as the evacuation was not particularly speedy) there will be little or no water ingress to the engine room.

There won't be watertight doors on the emergency escape hatches or HVAC trunking. So if the water is high enough, it could still flow down into the engine room.

[hidetheelephants]

gwm said:

hidetheelephants said:

Provided the watertight doors between the lower car decks and the aft stairwell were shut(and they should have been as the evacuation was not particularly speedy) there will be little or no water ingress to the engine room.

There won't be watertight doors on the emergency escape hatches or HVAC trunking. So if the water is high enough, it could still flow down into the engine room.

ER vents are typically in the funnel structure on car carriers, as is the emergency escape route; all of which is on the upper deck. I would caveat that by saying I'm not familiar with this specific design.

[GBGaffer]

The crew said that the engine room was flooding before they were rescued.

[anonymous-user]

I have a suspicion that perhaps the flooding was worse than initially thought, and the only reason the ship didn't sink was the light load and perhaps ironically poor ballasting!

[gwm]

hidetheelephants said:

ER vents are typically in the funnel structure on car carriers, as is the emergency escape route; all of which is on the upper deck. I would caveat that by saying I'm not familiar with this specific design.

Neither am I, would just expect more than escape routes in a central funnel space for such a large engine room space.