Ship stuck on Bramble Bank.

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Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Zed Ed said:
How much would a ship like this move around on a really rough crossing; presumably the cargo would be expected to survive a degree of pitch or roll.
....but not 52!

lbc

3,216 posts

217 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I will offer £5k for a RangeRover as long as it starts/runs and body is ok. I don't need a warranty.

grumpy52

5,582 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I don't know about production costs for JLR .
When I had something to collect from the special operations workshops , optional bling wheels were being fitted to customers cars and the original alloys and tyres, which were brand spanking new ,were being skipped as it was not cost effective to reprocess them through the system .
Go and price up a set of original alloys and tyres at your local JLR dealer .

grumpy52

5,582 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I don't know about production costs for JLR .
When I had something to collect from the special operations workshops , optional bling wheels were being fitted to customers cars and the original alloys and tyres, which were brand spanking new ,were being skipped as it was not cost effective to reprocess them through the system .
Go and price up a set of original alloys and tyres at your local JLR dealer .

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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This place seems to specialise in damaged in transit vehicles. Plenty of interesting stuff: http://www.s-w-s.co.uk/stock_list.asp?qryNo=14&amp...

fatboy18

18,947 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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OooEr Not that cheap on that site frown

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Now they just need to host the world's greatest banger race.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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fatboy18 said:
OooEr Not that cheap on that site frown
Given that some of the damage could be fixed by a SMART guy for a few hundred or simply ignored, am not surprised they are near retail prices.

Sheepshanks

32,760 posts

119 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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KTF said:
This place seems to specialise in damaged in transit vehicles. Plenty of interesting stuff: http://www.s-w-s.co.uk/stock_list.asp?qryNo=14&amp...
Wonder what the story is with the new VAG stuff - some of it has the most minor of damage?

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
Wonder what the story is with the new VAG stuff - some of it has the most minor of damage?
Because they driven by fking idiots who insist on tailgating everyone?

Condi

17,190 posts

171 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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KTF said:
fatboy18 said:
OooEr Not that cheap on that site frown
Given that some of the damage could be fixed by a SMART guy for a few hundred or simply ignored, am not surprised they are near retail prices.
And its non recorded, so will never show on a HPI check. It could be sold as pre-registered after a bit of work.

MM

368 posts

264 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Condi said:
MOTORVATOR said:
Spot on Max. 56 tonne impact crusher and write off is out of the question.

The things are just a load of modular parts anyway and what will look like huge damage will more likely be the outer casings that for all intents are just there to keep the st and body parts out of the workings or a couple of belt conveyors that can just be unbolted and replaced.

The only people that will be talking write off will be the paddy standing on the side of the dock trying to buy it cheap.
Yes and no. How can you warranty a machine which has been under salt water for even a few days? The engine and everything will have to be stripped, and even then all the bearings will have water penetration; problems which might not show for 2 years? I suspect it will be written off, as the costs of having it stripped back to components for inspection, as well as the replacement parts, will be more than its worth, even at £50k.

Remember, written off just means that the insurer has paid for the repairs with a new machine. So it wont be scrapped, but the insurer will pay out to the manufacturer, and then sold off by the insurance co at 3/4s of the list, or whatver it makes. That way someone else takes the risk of running it with no backup.

Edited by Condi on Monday 26th January 23:32
list price is around £400k depending on what options are on it. I would bet she will be back in Omagh were she was built to be assessed either to be striped for parts or fixed and resold. doesn't look like to much damage. looks like the cooler end of the power unit took most of the damage as did the control panel and the catwalks. Head section of the dirt conveyor (conveyor at the back that is folded up in the picture) might be damaged if it got a smack. I would also bet the product conveyor (big conveyor out the front that can't be seen in the picture) is in st as well. All I would say is that its lucky she was sitting on the side of the boat that went down.

Edited by MM on Tuesday 27th January 23:46

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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lbc said:
I will offer £5k for a RangeRover as long as it starts/runs and body is ok. I don't need a warranty.
I might stretch to £6k!!

Slaav

4,254 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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The Moose said:
lbc said:
I will offer £5k for a RangeRover as long as it starts/runs and body is ok. I don't need a warranty.
I might stretch to £6k!!
£7k for any one of them on that boat.... smile

(RR that is)

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Slaav said:
The Moose said:
lbc said:
I will offer £5k for a RangeRover as long as it starts/runs and body is ok. I don't need a warranty.
I might stretch to £6k!!
£7k for any one of them on that boat.... smile

(RR that is)
Hey big spender

£7 and a quarter..

V41LEY

2,893 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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I'll wager JLR will claim on the insurance and the cars will end up in an special 'Osaka' auction. To try and pass them off through the dealer network later might lead to unforeseen future warranty claims and reputational damage. Does anyone know where these cars were headed ? If Singapore, they will be RHD.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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They were heading to Saudi.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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The Moose said:
Slaav said:
The Moose said:
lbc said:
I will offer £5k for a RangeRover as long as it starts/runs and body is ok. I don't need a warranty.
I might stretch to £6k!!
£7k for any one of them on that boat.... smile

(RR that is)
Hey big spender

£7 and a quarter..
Well this is my point. Auction them off with history made known/no warranty seen or implied yada. Job done, cash in the bank, nice and simple, and with no waste.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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The auctioning might happen, but its still hassle to draw out, find auction, prepare paperwork etc. Then you have which country to auction in as they are LHD and then you have to check the relevant selling laws and legislations for that country. then you have to transport and store them at the relevant auction, worth bearing in mind if this is abroad

As said before its not clear who "owns the cars" as they might be the reasonability of the importer/subsidiary of the group and LR have no interest in them

Plus usually companies will have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a few dented cars.


markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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It won't be worth their while reselling the cars direct to end users, they'd want to inspect, ask loads of questions, complain if it went wrong etc.

If they're not simply crushed I'll bet on them being sold as a job lot for parts and be stripped. I doubt very very much they'll ever be seen on the road, anywhere in the world.