Tornado vs Typhoon

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V8 Fettler

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132 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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gifdy said:
Not sure yet, will let you know




( Brewery is across the road from RAF Lossiemouth )
No Bucc beer bottle? I take it the bottle of Bucc beer is jinking around the table legs, 3" from the floor in the pub in the next town (heading for the piano!) whilst the Tornado/Typhoon loiter close to home awaiting refuelling.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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As log as it's not the low alcohol S1 variant.

V8 Fettler

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132 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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A shrine! http://www.buccaneerbrough.co.uk/

Edit: don't know the place, will possibly be a disappointment, as many of these pubs with historic references generally are.

Edited by V8 Fettler on Thursday 15th January 11:37

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
A shrine! http://www.buccaneerbrough.co.uk/

Edit: don't know the place, will possibly be a disappointment, as many of these pubs with historic references generally are.
Here's one not far from me: http://www.thedouglasbader.co.uk/website/

Wonder if they have to pay the family for rights to use the name?

gifdy

2,073 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
gifdy said:
Not sure yet, will let you know




( Brewery is across the road from RAF Lossiemouth )
No Bucc beer bottle? I take it the bottle of Bucc beer is jinking around the table legs, 3" from the floor in the pub in the next town (heading for the piano!) whilst the Tornado/Typhoon loiter close to home awaiting refuelling.
I drank it. The empty bottle is sitting by my front gate smile


Edited by gifdy on Thursday 15th January 11:49

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Props should be straight up No1 blade uppermost. It prevents oil draining through the beta feedback tube.

And before you ask, No1 Blade has a yellow dot.
I never knew it actually mattered. I presume the oil is to do with the pitch control?

fomb

1,402 posts

211 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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scubadude said:
Everytime the shine is off the new toys people start wondering if the old one was better, a friend of my father worked on Buccaneers then went onto work/moan about Tornado's, I wonder if this is a universal constant? :-)
I would assume the v1 of the new thing is never going to be as good as v20 of the old thing, but the potential is much greater.

gifdy

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241 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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At the risk of going too far off-thread :

Low flying Buccaneer :


V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Time to wheel this out .. again!


AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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gifdy said:
At the risk of going too far off-thread :

Low flying Buccaneer :
You'll have to explain that one!

Is this the 'gate guardian' by the petrol station down the road from Lossie?

FUFPH

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112 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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For me the Tomcat was like the Countach of the fighter aircraft world. Even now, it looks like it would hold its own against better and newer stuff. I'd love to see a dog fight between a Tomcat and a Typhoon. Only guns allowed, no fire beyond the horizon guff allowed. It'd be an interesting match.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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In a turning dogfight - the Tomcat would be outmanouevered by quite a few aircraft. That wasn't its forté.

Pickled

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143 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Eric Mc said:
In a turning dogfight - the Tomcat would be outmanouevered by quite a few aircraft. That wasn't its forté.
Hit the brakes and he'll fly right by surely?

V8 Fettler

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132 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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How do fast jets use guns in a dogfight? Do they slow right down?

gifdy

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241 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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AndrewEH1 said:
You'll have to explain that one!

Is this the 'gate guardian' by the petrol station down the road from Lossie?
No a different one. My Dad got a call from his pal saying 'I've just seen a Buccaneer going past my window'

Not unusual for Lossie giving how low they usually flew over the West Beach but his pal lived in the middle of the town ! He grabbed his camera and saw it being wheeled it through the town, down to the harbour and loaded onto a ship.

It was going down South to be a gate guardian. Quite a sight !






Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Pickled said:
Eric Mc said:
In a turning dogfight - the Tomcat would be outmanouevered by quite a few aircraft. That wasn't its forté.
Hit the brakes and he'll fly right by surely?
All sorts of tactics might be used if an F-14 pilot found himself in a close in combat. But the plan would be to not get that close in the first place.

The F-14's role was to protect the fleet. Therefore its main aim was to keep the bad guys as far away from the fleet as possible.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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gifdy said:
No a different one. My Dad got a call from his pal saying 'I've just seen a Buccaneer going past my window'

Not unusual for Lossie giving how low they usually flew over the West Beach but his pal lived in the middle of the town ! He grabbed his camera and saw it being wheeled it through the town, down to the harbour and loaded onto a ship.

It was going down South to be a gate guardian. Quite a sight !
Quite a sight indeed, great photos by your dad too!

DeuxCentCinq

14,180 posts

182 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Eric Mc said:
All sorts of tactics might be used if an F-14 pilot found himself in a close in combat. But the plan would be to not get that close in the first place.

The F-14's role was to protect the fleet. Therefore its main aim was to keep the bad guys as far away from the fleet as possible.
Hence the Phoenix missile. 160km range if I recall my childhood Top Trumps correctly!

maffski

1,868 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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gifdy said:
Somehow the sales brochure gave me the impression Queen Elizabeth was more imposing than that, nice colour scheme though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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That isn't a gate guardian now is it?

I thought this was the one bought by Hawker Hunter Aviation at RAF Scampton, with the intention of restoring it to flight.

Unfortunately they won't restore it unless they get a contract to use it.
I can't really see there being much call for military training using a 1960's vintage bomber, that can't already be done by a Hunter or Hawk.

I very much doubt it will ever fly again, although it is probably the only candidate in the country that could be made airworthy.