Know your drone - 101

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EskimoArapaho

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Some of those are a lot larger than I'd twigged.

ecsrobin

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Global hawk is HUGE it's similar in size to a typhoon but with a massive wingspan

Simpo Two

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265 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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I like the one that's disguised as a tree.

Mave

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215 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Huh? It's got neuron but not taranis? Scandal!

Boatbuoy

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162 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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ecsrobin said:
Global hawk is HUGE it's similar in size to a typhoon but with a massive wingspan
About the same wingspan as a 737 IIRC?

EskimoArapaho

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Friday 23rd January 2015
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(tangent alert) There's something just plain wrong about these.

Military aircraft flown by pilots are somehow noble, and it's easy to romanticise about them. The time a full-chat Phantom screamed over my head at Port Stanley and sent me diving to the ground. To wish I'd been there to see the Hunter go through Tower Bridge. To remember the surpirse of the Balbo formation flying over me as I drove up the M11 with the roof off. Chatting with my neighbour, Mike Hobson (RIP), who'd piloted so many interesting cold war fighters allowed me to relive my childhood fantasies vicariously.

But these drones... leave me totally cold. Tech advances mean that they will get better with each generation. I love engineering, so I should love what they achieve. A close formation display of connected drones may one day be an awesome sight at an air show in the future - impossible to do with human pilots. And, of course, being free from pilot-loss means the military can take more risks and perhaps be more effective in certain scenarios.

But I hate them. I won't go into the politics of their use in the Middle East, nor the whole 'Skynet' thing, but I am somehow happier every time I hear that one of these things has been brought down.

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Simpo Two

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Friday 23rd January 2015
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EskimoArapaho said:
Chatting with my neighbour, Mike Hobson (RIP)
Lightning pilot? I may have been at school with his son.

Mave

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215 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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It'll be interesting to see how things develop once we get some doctrine cover for uavs, rather than proliferation of UORs.

Mabbs9

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218 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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I picked up an aircraft from Victorville a few years ago. We had a bit of a tour round and managed a nosey at the predator base there. Cool machines.

Mabbs9

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Friday 23rd January 2015
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crappy ipad induced double post

Edited by Mabbs9 on Friday 23 January 19:40

FurtiveFreddy

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Friday 23rd January 2015
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Those Global Hawks are pretty interesting. London to Sydney at 65,000 feet without refuelling.

Can you get them fitted with a double bed and cocktail bar?


Simpo Two

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Friday 23rd January 2015
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Definitely room for some passengers in that.

Private airline anyone?

EskimoArapaho

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Friday 23rd January 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Lightning pilot? I may have been at school with his son.
That's him, one-time president of the Ten Ton Club (and cover model on "The Lady" magazine!)

AER

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270 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Those Global Hawks are pretty interesting. London to Sydney at 65,000 feet without refuelling.

Can you get them fitted with a double bed and cocktail bar?

The beauty of unmanned aircraft is you can replace the human life-support systems with fuel tanks!

Ian974

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199 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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I find it strange to think of the size of these things. When drone is mentioned I always imagine something much smaller for some reason!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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EskimoArapaho said:
(tangent alert) There's something just plain wrong about these.
And you are (presumably) not one of their targets.

Imagine knowing that one of these might be high up, watching you, about to drop a bomb or launch a missile.


Simpo Two

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Thursday 29th January 2015
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el stovey said:
EskimoArapaho said:
(tangent alert) There's something just plain wrong about these.
And you are (presumably) not one of their targets.

Imagine knowing that one of these might be high up, watching you, about to drop a bomb or launch a missile.
I think he means that they are unmanned. When war is robotised by remote control and you can kill people with no risk to your own side... it may defuse the 'bodybags' argument but introduces other moral issues.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Simpo Two said:
I think he means that they are unmanned. When war is robotised by remote control and you can kill people with no risk to your own side... it may defuse the 'bodybags' argument but introduces other moral issues.
I know exactly what he means. I'm just saying if he doesn't like them, imagine what their targets think of them.

scubadude

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197 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Is anyone else irritated with UAV's constantly being referred to as Drones?

To me a drone is a glorified remote control plane to be used as target practice... these are precision tele-presence aircaft with global range, weaponry and advanced sensory equipment, calling them drones seems a bit like dumbing down.