Bear in the air
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Yes, it was a rhetorical question really. Putin wants to rebuild the USSR and short of starting WW3 there's damn all we can do about it except throw paper.
But I'd rather Putin gets the Baltic states than WW3.
It's slightly reminiscent of Mr Hitler's probing takeovers of the 1930s, but I don't think Putin has any designs beyond what was the old USSR.
It's funny; we seem terrified of a Cold War - yet it was 'normal' for decades - I grew up in it - and seemed to work quite well.
But I'd rather Putin gets the Baltic states than WW3.
It's slightly reminiscent of Mr Hitler's probing takeovers of the 1930s, but I don't think Putin has any designs beyond what was the old USSR.
It's funny; we seem terrified of a Cold War - yet it was 'normal' for decades - I grew up in it - and seemed to work quite well.
t really hit the fan then?guru_1071 said:
Simpo Two said:
With a Bear service ceiling of 45,000 feet I'm afraid your Spits won't be able to the intercept.
pfffffffnothing a Eurofighter and a stout towrope wouldn't sort out
ecsrobin said:
guru_1071 said:
Simpo Two said:
With a Bear service ceiling of 45,000 feet I'm afraid your Spits won't be able to the intercept.
pfffffffnothing a Eurofighter and a stout towrope wouldn't sort out
dr_gn said:
ecsrobin said:
A griffon powered spit could get to 43,500 feet so as long as the bear isn't operating at maximum then the spit has a chance (although in the real world the pressurised cockpits are no longer operational on the BBMF aircraft)
What about the 100+ mph difference in top speed?But assuming you could formate alongside a Bear with a Spitfire it would be a good chuckle for both sides. They might even report back that the RAF is down to its last half dozen Spitfires...
Simpo Two said:
It's slightly reminiscent of Mr Hitler's probing takeovers of the 1930s, but I don't think Putin has any designs beyond what was the old USSR.
Indeed.........and funnily enough, most late 30's politicians didn't want to think Hitler had any designs beyond reclaiming Prussia, and the German speaking Sudentenland regions.Except, he wanted to avenge the Versailles Treaty so, once we (Europe collectively) didn't do anything to stop the first phase, he felt we(collective) equally wouldn't do anything if he went further.
Putin could easily take the same view - we really don't know what his intensions are tbh.
Video of the intercept - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnZMy1WWjZs
CharlieCrocodile said:
Video of the intercept - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnZMy1WWjZs
Show them the armaments!Simpo Two said:
But I'd rather Putin gets the Baltic states than WW3.
It's slightly reminiscent of Mr Hitler's probing takeovers of the 1930s, but I don't think Putin has any designs beyond what was the old USSR.
Are your middle names Quisling and Chamberlain? Those are NATO members you're wishing away there.It's slightly reminiscent of Mr Hitler's probing takeovers of the 1930s, but I don't think Putin has any designs beyond what was the old USSR.
aeropilot said:
Simpo Two said:
NB If Ukraine works, then no doubt Putin will try the same on the Baltic states. I wonder what we will do?
Nothing.........and he's knows it, which is why he's doing what he's doing.Putin is no fool and he's sat back and waited for enough fools to take up political office in western govts before doing what he's now doing.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Thursday 19th February 18:20
CharlieCrocodile said:
Inteligence gathering of the intercept - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnZMy1WWjZs
Edited for you. DeuxCentCinq said:
CharlieCrocodile said:
Video of the intercept - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnZMy1WWjZs
Show them the armaments!hidetheelephants said:
Simpo Two said:
But I'd rather Putin gets the Baltic states than WW3. It's slightly reminiscent of Mr Hitler's probing takeovers of the 1930s, but I don't think Putin has any designs beyond what was the old USSR.
Are your middle names Quisling and Chamberlain? Those are NATO members you're wishing away there.hidetheelephants said:
Our NATO obligations are as firm as they were in 1949; if he starts messing with the baltic states he's going get his nose put even more out of joint than it already is.
And how do you intend to do that? Sanctions? It's the fact that Russia has NATO neighbours now that provoked Putin in the first place. The Baltic state's membership of NATO is rather like Greece's membership of the Euro I think - one too many on the raft.Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 19th February 19:33
There was quiet an interesting ting about this on R4 a few minutes ago. Difference between Ukraine and the Baltics is that the latter are already part of the EU and want to stay that way, even the ethnic russians therein. In Ukraine he's 'pushing on an open door', in the Baltics that won't be the case. Hopefully.
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