I've won the euromillions - hypothetical question
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WTFWT said:
I've only done about 6 hours in one but it's love. Truly, madly, deeply.
On this rock we call home, it has to be the ultimate realistic (IYKWIM) personal transport...
Had the pleasure of being posted to Middle Wallop for a while. Got to have a blast in everything. On this rock we call home, it has to be the ultimate realistic (IYKWIM) personal transport...
Lynx vmax tests were very cool.
Surfr said:
Sorry but IMO this blows everything else mentioned in this thread out of the water, Mach 2 capability and a near as dammit 60,000 ceiling, enough to clearly see the curvature of the earth. Also is it me or does $4.5m dollars sound very reasonable for a lightly used and still flyable military jet. How much would it cost to get trained to fly this puppy?Guvernator said:
Surfr said:
Sorry but IMO this blows everything else mentioned in this thread out of the water, Mach 2 capability and a near as dammit 60,000 ceiling, enough to clearly see the curvature of the earth. Also is it me or does $4.5m dollars sound very reasonable for a lightly used and still flyable military jet. How much would it cost to get trained to fly this puppy?Guvernator said:
Surfr said:
Sorry but IMO this blows everything else mentioned in this thread out of the water, Mach 2 capability and a near as dammit 60,000 ceiling, enough to clearly see the curvature of the earth. Also is it me or does $4.5m dollars sound very reasonable for a lightly used and still flyable military jet. How much would it cost to get trained to fly this puppy?If you where a pilot and could fly one of these, could you buy one (build your own house and run way) and have one of these?
How would it work if you just fancied "going out for a wee spin" ?
Guvernator said:
Sorry but IMO this blows everything else mentioned in this thread out of the water, Mach 2 capability and a near as dammit 60,000 ceiling, enough to clearly see the curvature of the earth. Also is it me or does $4.5m dollars sound very reasonable for a lightly used and still flyable military jet. How much would it cost to get trained to fly this puppy?
Can anyone with military aviation experience tell us how many flying hours and how much ground school it takes until an ab initio pilot is OK to solo something like Mig29/F15/Typhoon? I appreciate that military candidates are very carefully selected but on the other hand a civilian would only need to fly the aircraft not fight with it so it could give a rough idea of what it would take for a lottery winner to reach that standard.I know some civilian trained pilots have flown Gnats and Hunters which in terms of stick and rudder skills can't be all that much easier than a modern fighter.
Mr Trophy said:
All jokes aside...
If you where a pilot and could fly one of these, could you buy one (build your own house and run way) and have one of these?
Yes, as long as kept it somewhere that would certify it and allow you to fly it....and you employ a team/company that actually knows how to maintain and operate the thing (and can get the parts for it for you).....which does narrow your options a bit.....If you where a pilot and could fly one of these, could you buy one (build your own house and run way) and have one of these?
Dr Jekyll said:
Can anyone with military aviation experience tell us how many flying hours and how much ground school it takes until an ab initio pilot is OK to solo something like Mig29/F15/Typhoon?
There or thereabouts 300hrs training within the RAF before starting the appropriate OCU (FJ stream)...aeropilot said:
Yes, as long as kept it somewhere that would certify it and allow you to fly it....and you employ a team/company that actually knows how to maintain and operate the thing (and can get the parts for it for you).....which does narrow your options a bit.....
So if you fancied a spin, do you need to tell anyone that there is going to be a very fast jet flying about?Mr Trophy said:
So if you fancied a spin, do you need to tell anyone that there is going to be a very fast jet flying about?
This, I assume you can't just "pop out" in a fast jet. I know you are supposed to log a flight path in any private aircraft but this plane has the added factor of being able to go Mach 2 (with your hair on fire) and up to 60,000 so I am going to assume that getting flying permission and restrictions on where you can actually go are going to be a lot stricter?Also I guess flybys of your local pub to impress your mates are also out of the question? "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full"
Guvernator said:
Mr Trophy said:
So if you fancied a spin, do you need to tell anyone that there is going to be a very fast jet flying about?
This, I assume you can't just "pop out" in a fast jet. I know you are supposed to log a flight path in any private aircraft but this plane has the added factor of being able to go Mach 2 (with your hair on fire) and up to 60,000 so I am going to assume that getting flying permission and restrictions on where you can actually go are going to be a lot stricter?It certainly WON'T be anywhere within the EU for a start.
Somewhere in Africa or Asia might be lax enough.....? and likely you might also find suitable people to look after it in those areas as well.
Plonk the aircraft somewhere in west Africa and your flying restrictions are probably fairly minimal providing you are paying the right people the right donations in none traceable foreign currency each month. You would of course need to make sure that you didn't stray into the wrong airspace unless you want to be escorted to the nearest airport by a pair of Mirages or Mig21's.
Guvernator said:
This, I assume you can't just "pop out" in a fast jet. I know you are supposed to log a flight path in any private aircraft but this plane has the added factor of being able to go Mach 2 (with your hair on fire) and up to 60,000 so I am going to assume that getting flying permission and restrictions on where you can actually go are going to be a lot stricter?
Also I guess flybys of your local pub to impress your mates are also out of the question? "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full"
There is no need to log a flight path in a private aircraft, providing you are flying visually rather than on instruments you can wander around at will in uncontrolled airspace. You would need permission (a 'permit to fly') for an ex military aircraft to fly at all, and for a Mach 2 jet this isn't going to happen in the UK. But you're qualified and the aircraft has a permit an ex military jet is pretty much like any other private aircraft and you can jump in and fly when you feel like it. You aren't allowed to go supersonic though.Also I guess flybys of your local pub to impress your mates are also out of the question? "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full"
IanMorewood said:
Plonk the aircraft somewhere in west Africa and your flying restrictions are probably fairly minimal providing you are paying the right people the right donations in none traceable foreign currency each month. You would of course need to make sure that you didn't stray into the wrong airspace unless you want to be escorted to the nearest airport by a pair of Mirages or Mig21's.
I'll be honest, if I had bought a MiG29 I'd not be unduly worried by a MiG21 or Mirage as I'd have also bought sufficient quantities of R73s to protect my new investment.Dr Jekyll said:
Guvernator said:
This, I assume you can't just "pop out" in a fast jet. I know you are supposed to log a flight path in any private aircraft but this plane has the added factor of being able to go Mach 2 (with your hair on fire) and up to 60,000 so I am going to assume that getting flying permission and restrictions on where you can actually go are going to be a lot stricter?
Also I guess flybys of your local pub to impress your mates are also out of the question? "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full"
There is no need to log a flight path in a private aircraft, providing you are flying visually rather than on instruments you can wander around at will in uncontrolled airspace. You would need permission (a 'permit to fly') for an ex military aircraft to fly at all, and for a Mach 2 jet this isn't going to happen in the UK. But you're qualified and the aircraft has a permit an ex military jet is pretty much like any other private aircraft and you can jump in and fly when you feel like it. You aren't allowed to go supersonic though.Also I guess flybys of your local pub to impress your mates are also out of the question? "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full"
Dr Jekyll said:
There is no need to log a flight path in a private aircraft, providing you are flying visually rather than on instruments you can wander around at will in uncontrolled airspace. You would need permission (a 'permit to fly') for an ex military aircraft to fly at all, and for a Mach 2 jet this isn't going to happen in the UK. But you're qualified and the aircraft has a permit an ex military jet is pretty much like any other private aircraft and you can jump in and fly when you feel like it. You aren't allowed to go supersonic though.
So no supersonic? Ever? Even in Africa? Sort of defeats the object if that's the case. 
I've gone off the idea now, I'll be buying something else with my Euromillions.
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