I've won the euromillions - hypothetical question
Discussion
Guvernator said:
So no supersonic? Ever? Even in Africa? Sort of defeats the object if that's the case. 
Other than in designated mil training zones (and therefore usually out of bounds to civvie) most countries won't allow supersonic overland. The bangs frighten the natives old boy.....So, that's why you'd need to bugger off and go and play well out to sea for your supersonic thrills......like Thunder City used to do out of Cape Town Int.
If you are based in west Africa you have a rather large body of sea most of which is not on people's flight paths of defended airspace so plenty of space to go and play, doubt much of it even has effective radar coverage once you are fifty miles out.
As for arming your mig29, that's going to cost you lots more in bribes etc as they have to turn a blind eye to the possibility of you starting a local conflict.
As for arming your mig29, that's going to cost you lots more in bribes etc as they have to turn a blind eye to the possibility of you starting a local conflict.
Dr Jekyll said:
Is going supersonic really a thrill though? I think I'd get my kicks from the acceleration and rate of climb.
Low level flying is the ultimate thrill 
I should, however, add that you've probably got far more chance of actually winning the Euromillions Jackpot than getting the CAA or EASA to condone almost anything suggested in this thread.
Edited by Geneve on Wednesday 1st April 14:57
I've thought about this topic for many years now, I reckon I'd settle on a simple fleet of cheap aircraft
MD500 for fun and short flights with mates etc
AW139 or AW189 for taking the family around in (or an Airbus H160, because they look really cool!)
Pilatus PC12 for longer European jaunts, why not a jet, I just love the PC12.
MD500 for fun and short flights with mates etc
AW139 or AW189 for taking the family around in (or an Airbus H160, because they look really cool!)
Pilatus PC12 for longer European jaunts, why not a jet, I just love the PC12.
Edited by RobbyJ on Wednesday 1st April 15:03
aeropilot said:
IanMorewood said:
This is pistonheads so speed matters, mach two would beat most things other than a remapped bmw 335d.
Ok so let's say you get hold of this Mig, and go supersonic over the UK or just off the coast - but outside restricted airspace - how much trouble would you be in?
gwm said:
Ok so let's say you get hold of this Mig, and go supersonic over the UK or just off the coast - but outside restricted airspace - how much trouble would you be in?
The trouble you would be in would start the moment you left the deck as you aren't ever going to get a permit to fly a MiG29 in the UK/EU, so going supersonic at some point of the flight would be the least of your worries, but seeing as you've taken off, you may as well go for broke and go through the sound barrier on you one and only ever flight in it (and likely anything else again) 
aeropilot said:
gwm said:
Ok so let's say you get hold of this Mig, and go supersonic over the UK or just off the coast - but outside restricted airspace - how much trouble would you be in?
The trouble you would be in would start the moment you left the deck as you aren't ever going to get a permit to fly a MiG29 in the UK/EU, so going supersonic at some point of the flight would be the least of your worries, but seeing as you've taken off, you may as well go for broke and go through the sound barrier on you one and only ever flight in it (and likely anything else again) There was a suggestion a few years back that a privately owned Scandinavian Draken planning to visit a coastal UK airshow might do a sonic boom a few miles offshore but nothing came of it.
Turkish91 said:
If I was a multi billionaire and didn't give a f
k (provided there was no jail time involved) I would undoubtedly set off a sonic boom right above my local town... As low as I possibly could. Just for a giggle 
Ditto.k (provided there was no jail time involved) I would undoubtedly set off a sonic boom right above my local town... As low as I possibly could. Just for a giggle I mean, let's say you just took off without permission in some Mig that wasn't certified to fly here, went supersonic a few times, are they going to shoot you down? Can a Typhoon catch you?
gwm said:
Ditto.
I mean, let's say you just took off without permission in some Mig that wasn't certified to fly here, went supersonic a few times, are they going to shoot you down? Can a Typhoon catch you?
Providing you kept out of controlled airspace I'm not sure they'd even notice until after you'd landed and someone wondering where all the sonic booms were coming from put 2 and 2 together. If you went into controlled airspace they would try to intercept you but unless it was a period of international tension and you had omitted to remove the red stars I don't think they would shoot you down.I mean, let's say you just took off without permission in some Mig that wasn't certified to fly here, went supersonic a few times, are they going to shoot you down? Can a Typhoon catch you?
There was a case of a Soviet pilot defecting in a MIG 25 who managed to land in Japan without being intercepted. Also the RAF Vulcan that diverted to Rio with a fuel problem and landed before the chasing Brazilian fighters had caught up with it. So in a MIG29 you might be back at base before they'd caught you.
The CAA would certainly have a sense of humour failure once they'd identified you though.
Have you thought of including Tower Bridge in your fly-it-like-you-stole-it itinerary?
Dr Jekyll said:
gwm said:
Ditto.
I mean, let's say you just took off without permission in some Mig that wasn't certified to fly here, went supersonic a few times, are they going to shoot you down? Can a Typhoon catch you?
Providing you kept out of controlled airspace I'm not sure they'd even notice until after you'd landed and someone wondering where all the sonic booms were coming from put 2 and 2 together. If you went into controlled airspace they would try to intercept you but unless it was a period of international tension and you had omitted to remove the red stars I don't think they would shoot you down.I mean, let's say you just took off without permission in some Mig that wasn't certified to fly here, went supersonic a few times, are they going to shoot you down? Can a Typhoon catch you?
There was a case of a Soviet pilot defecting in a MIG 25 who managed to land in Japan without being intercepted. Also the RAF Vulcan that diverted to Rio with a fuel problem and landed before the chasing Brazilian fighters had caught up with it. So in a MIG29 you might be back at base before they'd caught you.
The CAA would certainly have a sense of humour failure once they'd identified you though.
Have you thought of including Tower Bridge in your fly-it-like-you-stole-it itinerary?
Surely it's a case of just handing over (no not bribing) money to the CAA for a permit, then only flying in designated areas ie not over where people live should the unthinkable happen?
EarlOfHazard said:
Surely it's a case of just handing over (no not bribing) money to the CAA for a permit, then only flying in designated areas ie not over where people live should the unthinkable happen?
Err.....nope.It's somewhat more complicated than that.
Actually it's not. The chances of the CAA letting a MiG-29 fly in civvie hands in the UK (& not under COMA regs) is ZERO....ZILCH.....NADDA......period.
And if anyone things the CAA won't notice an airworthy MiG-29 arriving in the UK then have one of these
EarlOfHazard said:
The Vulcan is privately owned, so how come it can fly around?
Surely it's a case of just handing over (no not bribing) money to the CAA for a permit, then only flying in designated areas ie not over where people live should the unthinkable happen?
Because of it's complexity the Vulcan was only able to get a permit to fly with manufacturer backing. Surely it's a case of just handing over (no not bribing) money to the CAA for a permit, then only flying in designated areas ie not over where people live should the unthinkable happen?
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